Why is it so complicated nowadays with the managers? (applications, degree, find a job)

[313Weather]

Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

And she was always so supportive of me and other unemployed people on here which is why I was so shocked. I had to make sure it was the same person. Plus I wasn't used to being attacked because it hasn't happened in a while because the members below are no longer posting on the site

TKC11
STT Resident

See what you did?

You brought up the name of someone who was enjoying their life and attracted their energy back to the forum.

[NJBest]

Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

The unemployment office found jobs for you at that the time she came along. Not the case in 2012

I don't know how it is in other states, but in NJ, the unemployment department does not have the duty to help people find employment. We have another department called the employment department.

[pythonis]

I remember back in the day you could walk into a place or call to talk to the manager to check up on your application/resume. I was told not too long ago that businesses now see this as harassment. They have a dont call us we'll call you attitude.

[pythonis]

Originally Posted by B.B.C.420

Oh that explains it. lol He comes from THAT generation. My father could relate to him. They think all you gotta do is apply and you have the job.

thats how it use to be

[Rambler123]

Originally Posted by pythonis

thats how it use to be

They also used to "pound the pavement" to get jobs. Try that today... if you're not escorted away by security (imagine trying to get into Ford or Lockheed to speak to a hiring manager?!), you'll at best be told, "apply online" and your application will be ignored in the order in which it was received!

The sad part is that when I was laid off in 2010, the "outplacement services" group had a bunch of people there to give us advise about finding jobs... and they recommended going to places and "pounding the pavement?!" This, to a room full of laid-off defense contractor engineers... in 2010... makes me wonder what world they were living in and how they earned their pay... yeesh!

[MrRational]

Originally Posted by pythonis

I remember back in the day you could walk into a place or call to talk to the manager
to check up on your application/resume.

Or just get a straight answer to the real Q at the outset:
"Mr Smith, do you have an opening?" then "No? OK, thanks anyway."

Now they seem to have an entire industry focused on having people spin their wheels...
job security for the HR droid on the inside.
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On the point of pavement pounding: It's still valid.
It was never about big jobs or big companies... it's for small jobs at small companies.

[silenthelpreturns]

I've only seen one place tell people NOT to follow up in any way shape or form. It was a restaurant. Anyone who makes an effort to discourage follow ups is probably picky about hiring.

[MrRational]

Originally Posted by silenthelpreturns

Anyone who makes an effort to discourage follow ups is probably picky about hiring.

Or they do what companies are supposed to do:
Grow their own and promote from within the organization.

[FBJ]

Originally Posted by NJBest

I don't know how it is in other states, but in NJ, the unemployment department does not have the duty to help people find employment. We have another department called the employment department.

I was saying in the 70's, the unemployment office found employment for you. You didn't have to search for jobs like you have to do today because the unemployment office always had one for you. So it wasn't a such thing as collecting unemployment compensation.

[B.B.C.420]

Originally Posted by silenthelpreturns

I've only seen one place tell people NOT to follow up in any way shape or form. It was a restaurant. Anyone who makes an effort to discourage follow ups is probably picky about hiring.

A place like that already knows the kind of people they want working for them. That's what it sounds like to me.