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its amazing the lengths some people will go to get something on you- like everyone is trying to determine your weaknesses - when they have found that its a stick to beat you with.
when they find it hard to find weaknesses, they hate you.
Or another tactic - your in a job a few weeks or months, and you get some colleague questioning you about something subject or area they know inside out - so they can lord it over with more knowledge - trying to exploit you in the early days of a job.
As soon as you have mastered their bit of knowledge they hate you - find myself constantly fighting these type of battles with people trying cloak their knowledge, withhold info, make life difficult.
I am so sick of dealing with people who think their very intelligent - but most of them turn out to be fairly average, just with some specialist knowledge or a mixture of BS.
I am too. I think I've used up all my patience with it.
If you're nice, you're seen as weak.
If you come to work and do your job and are civil, you're not "nice enough".
You can't share anything personal or you're giving them the hammer to hit you over the head with.
What baffles me is how these types interface. They seem to have the same neurotypical minds. I never figured it out.
Yes, they play behind the scenes, smoke and mirrors, and every day is just one more day to control someone else.
I noticed that too, most of them are not intelligent. Most smart people are on the "spectrum" and are seen as different. I notice that wherever I go. Especially with the ones who brag or talk about how great they are. Those are the ones I get the big drift on. Really smart people don't have to brag or be pompous. They already know they are. But the ones who aren't are really threatened by it.
These types always ruin a perfectly good job. I have had people say to "just ignore them", but if you do, those types ramp things up. They know you're trying to ignore them, and they hate not getting attention, so they rachet things up even more.
Oh yeah. I've seen that A LOT in the accounting field, especially in public accounting. At my old job it was hilarious listening to the way some of them talked, using big words inappropriately sometimes, acting high class, always trying to sound "sophisticated." Give me someone who speaks plainly and knows what the hell he is talking about anyday, not some know nothing who has a chip on his shoulder and thinks he brilliant just because he managed to get some "status" job. The enormous egos I encountered at that job still amaze me.
I agree, and it's in everything now, not just accounting.
Now it's become all about BS'ing. The ones who talk big. If you don't go around talking it up, tooting your own horn, you're seen as not competent, not with it, you name it.
It's all part of the same mindset that says you should really beef up your resume.
I had one coworker say she always puts what a great worker she is on her resume. I found that odd. I don't even have an "objective" on my resume. Unless one has a real objective, putting "To work at a really great company" or like this woman, "To be the greatest worker wherever I work" (sic) is ridiculous.
I guess the BS works. I guess managers want to see this stuff, so they get what they keep promoting. BS. They get a bunch of BS workers who BS'ed their way into a good job.
I agree, and it's in everything now, not just accounting.
Now it's become all about BS'ing. The ones who talk big. If you don't go around talking it up, tooting your own horn, you're seen as not competent, not with it, you name it.
It's all part of the same mindset that says you should really beef up your resume.
I had one coworker say she always puts what a great worker she is on her resume. I found that odd. I don't even have an "objective" on my resume. Unless one has a real objective, putting "To work at a really great company" or like this woman, "To be the greatest worker wherever I work" (sic) is ridiculous.
I guess the BS works. I guess managers want to see this stuff, so they get what they keep promoting. BS. They get a bunch of BS workers who BS'ed their way into a good job.
I remember a quote from another website that is perfect for this problem you stated here.
"In a bad organization, **** tend to float to the top."
I remember a quote from another website that is perfect for this problem you stated here.
"In a bad organization, **** tend to float to the top."
This is what is wrong in our country. It is the mode of government and business.
I base this on what I've seen, so IMO, the average person does not care that the moral fabric of
their nation is eroded, as long as THEY HAVE THEIRS.
I'm not walking the high ground here, but I have no interest in "getting ahead" by betraying, backstabbing, or other things with coworkes. But if someone does me wrong, I have no problem revealing that either.
I won't cover up for them if they do me wrong.
It is how I feel about myself, if I did something well that counts. I could never cheat in school. Just never had any interest in it. I wanted to see how I did on a test. I had someone ask me if I'd let them see my test sheet during a physics exam because they didn't study. No way.
The ones who find you're a good worker will look for something on you, as you said, but if they can't find something, they will fabricate it. They are relentless. I've seen some whose focus was to come to work like it was going to war.
Yep there are so many co-workers who always looking for a chance to nail you - They will only speak to you for the purpose of trying check up on you, or see what your working - worried if your getting more work than them etc - extremely insecure.
They live in the mindset for them to succeed they must undermine others, driven by jealousy etc
Always reasonably pleasant for you to lower your guard, relax- but always attempting to compile info, or any angle they can use others. I have seen it so many times, decent people who assume others are decent - but all the while there being backstabbed.
The funny thing is you can right through them and read them look a book for sneaky nasty person they are.
Never lower your guard for anyone at work no matter how nice they are
Yep there are so man co-workers who always looking for a chance to nail you - They will only speak to you for the purpose of trying check up on you, or see what your working - worried if your getting more work than them etc - extremely insecure.
They live in the mindset for them to succeed they to undermine others
I have had several, but one in particular stands out. She was younger than me, and had a really squeaky voice. She was always so bubbly, overly friendly. She thanked the cleaning people over and over for emptying the trash.
I thought perhaps at one time, she might have been a kindergarten teacher, as she talked like she was talking to children. But perhaps that was her condescending attitude.
She tried on several occasions to get me to say something bad about our boss. Now, I knew our boss just loved her. Don't ask me why, but she always got her way with him.
When she tried to get me to say bad things about our boss, I knew just what she was doing. And the fact I wouldn't say anything bad about him should have been a sign to her I knew, too. But she kept at it. I would answer with things like, "Oh, I suppose it is hard to have to manage so many people and one does their best." This was really infuriating her. I wondered if she went back to him and told him anything at that point just to screw me over.
After one big incident of her trying to extract something from me, she wasn't friendly anymore. It was rather funny, but it shows how sick some are.
They just can't come to work, do their job, and be civil. I'd rather talk what we do at work, the skills.
I don't know how some are so bold like that, that it doesn't hit them back. How they think they can get away with it and never have repercussions.
They must have the boss' blessing to do this, and perhaps, they really are spying.
If you pull off the wrappers, you have crappy stores and crappy restaurants and very few good places. Just lots of CHAIN stores all over, making every exit of the freeways from coast-to-coast into one giant mass-produced nightmare.
Driving around the outskirts of Houston, you see what I like to call McTowns. They have the "planned communities" full of the boring, boxlike cookie cutter McMansions that all look alike. Then you have the strip malls that all look alike with the marquee out front that lists all the businesses with the usual "Arby's, Chilli's, Office Depot, Pets Mart, Super Cuts, etc."
Your typical father who lives in one of these McTowns goes to his McCareer downtown (sitting in a cubicle, doing boring crap in front of a computer screen for 8 hours, kissing some boss's ass), then he drives home and greets the McWife (soccer mom whose entire life revolves around her McBrats) and sits in front of his tv screen watching McShows before going to sleep and repeating the same cycle again.
It's all so bland and boring. Makes me want to move out to the country side and raise goats or something. lol
Look at this way - at least you picking up a pay cheque every month from people you hate - at least your getting cash out of people you despise - I'd rather take cash from I don't like than people I like - there is kind of justice in that, a feel good factor.
The fact that the employers keep toxic, backstabbing, manipulative people employed who are only interested in keeping themselves in a job and won't address it, is a reflection on them
So mask your contempt, hatred, smile and be polite, lose your emotions in these places, examine things in a cold calculating manner - be the enemy within. Forget about decency, fairness - its all about extracting cash from them.
Your goal is to keep getting money out of them every month and get promoted
Driving around the outskirts of Houston, you see what I like to call McTowns. They have the "planned communities" full of the boring, boxlike cookie cutter McMansions that all look alike. Then you have the strip malls that all look alike with the marquee out front that lists all the businesses with the usual "Arby's, Chilli's, Office Depot, Pets Mart, Super Cuts, etc."
Your typical father who lives in one of these McTowns goes to his McCareer downtown (sitting in a cubicle, doing boring crap in front of a computer screen for 8 hours, kissing some boss's ass), then he drives home and greets the McWife (soccer mom whose entire life revolves around her McBrats) and sits in front of his tv screen watching McShows before going to sleep and repeating the same cycle again.
It's all so bland and boring. Makes me want to move out to the country side and raise goats or something. lol
Great post +1
I feel the same way. Let me know if you need a farm hand if your goat-raising plan comes to fruition. I want out too!
Right now at my place of employment, I'm in a situation where I've had to speak up about a few issues to management. I'm very outspoken, and not the kind of person that takes a lot of s**t without responding. Of course in the corporate office you need to be able to deal with copious amounts of it just to survive, let alone thrive. The problem I have is with the cheerleading co-workers, you know the ones who love the drama of watching you butt heads with management and even quietly support your cause, but wouldn't dare speak up alongside you even though I'm arguing on issues that 'everyone' is complaining about in the lunchroom. No-one wants to speak out and stand behind their convictions out of fear, it's like people check their balls( literally and figuratively) at the door when they arrive at work.
I have a suspicion my days at my current job are numbered.....
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