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Old 07-24-2013, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Public transport in my city is really bad by British standards - we don't have a tram or an underground and limited suburban rail. We rely on buses basically. It's easy to get by without a car though - there are bus stops every few yards on the same street, in some places they're every 5-10 minutes, but some of the routes are quite long - would take way over an hour to get from one side of the city to the other, and to do that, you would have to go through the city centre on the same bus, or change buses, which is a pain.

Very walkable too.

Outside of London, the best public transport is overall is probably Glasgow or Manchester - Glasgow has a subway and a very extensive suburban railway network, the best outside of London, however, the subway is not very extensive. Manchester on the other hand has an ever-expanding tram network, and a great suburban railway network. I'm jealous of these places for having such great transport networks - our city leaders f***ed up in the 90s when they didn't ask the government for tram cash - they were giving it away like it was going out of fashion back then.
Nottingham has good public transport too, they have very modern trams and buses

 
Old 07-24-2013, 04:54 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Thunderstorm down south lighting sky up like daylight.

I love it when it does that. Very impressive.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 04:58 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2876/9...dc824d71_z.jpg

LOL
 
Old 07-24-2013, 05:09 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Thunderstorm is now at dublin. I am staying up to it arrives.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Too dangerous to walk here. If you don't have a car you're stuck and have to get others to give you rides.
I remember taking 10 minutes to cross this intersection in LA. A couple dozen meters as the crow flies, but pedestrians have to cross 3 streets and lights are very long. Did not feel pedestrian friendly at all.

Crossing that one over here is a piece of cake in comparison, even if pedestrians seem even rarer.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 05:38 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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I remember taking 10 minutes to cross this intersection in LA. A couple dozen meters as the crow flies, but pedestrians have to cross 3 streets and lights are very long. Did not feel pedestrian friendly at all.
What were you doing walking there as a tourist? It doesn't look like there's anything worth visiting.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 05:49 PM
 
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I liked the idea of trams when I was in Amsterdam. Couldn't figure it out though, so never went on it.

The US needs to undergo major infrastructure changes. If cities nearly a thousand years old can adapt, I think the cities and suburbs here can do so too. I know it would be a mess for a while, but it'd be worth it if it's done right.
I think we'll need double the automotive fuel prices for that to happen here.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Paris
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What were you doing walking there as a tourist? It doesn't look like there's anything worth visiting.
Going from a nearby hotel to the gas station to by some water.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 06:34 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I am so happy with this morning's cool and cloudy weather.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 07:18 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Going from a nearby hotel to the gas station to by some water.
Oh just didn't seem like a tourist town, I'm guessing you were on a road trip, and you stayed there overnight as it as right off the I-5 highway? There are some intersections where it makes more sense and safer drive across rather than walk. Rather annoying design IMO. This one I wouldn't walk across:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=elwoo...78.21,,0,-1.37

Too many cars turning, similar or worse further down:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=elwoo...78.95,,0,-10.3

This area and the nearby intersections are fine, though traffic on this road can be congested:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Green...26.48,,0,-4.22

There's a train station nearby to Manhattan. Its official parking lot requires a permit so the last couple times I've parked on a residential street a few blocks away, then walked to the local shops before the train.

Around here, a few big roads don't even sidewalks:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=amher...,0.74,,0,-0.99

From the town center to other town centers there's infrequent (hourly, sometimes better on weekdays) bus service, excluding a route to the local large university, which gets much more service. In the 1920s, Northampton and Easthampton had a tram running every 20 minutes, other towns were likely similar. Biggest issue to improving transit is that a lot of jobs and shops are no longer in the town center, plus some people (maybe half) live in rather isolated areas away (usually with large lots in the forest, similar to where ilovemycomputer90 lives?). So it'd be difficult for any good transit system to cover what we have now well for many.
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