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Old 03-07-2017, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Paris
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To those who live in iceboxes and listen to music with earplugs, at what temperature does the cable usually get stiff? I noticed that this winter for the first time. What are other thresholds related to intense cold (for example the snot freezing point, etc)?
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Straya:
Is this only based on the moisture of soils or the type of soils, or both?

Because Australia is known to have poor nutrient soils, even in the moist regions (Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne). So their soils will be more ustic than udic.
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Old 03-08-2017, 05:38 AM
 
Location: 64'N Umeå, Sweden - The least bad Dfc
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To those who live in iceboxes and listen to music with earplugs, at what temperature does the cable usually get stiff? I noticed that this winter for the first time. What are other thresholds related to intense cold (for example the snot freezing point, etc)?
My snot starts to freeze and pull on my nose hairs at temperatures below about -10'C. Don't know about cables though.
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Old 03-08-2017, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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What would this climate be under Koppen, humid subtropical or semi-arid, or transitional (as Wikipedia states)? Or is it more Mediterranean than Cfa?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corowa#Climate
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Old 03-09-2017, 05:20 AM
 
Location: 44N 89W
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What would this climate be under Koppen, humid subtropical or semi-arid, or transitional (as Wikipedia states)? Or is it more Mediterranean than Cfa?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corowa#Climate
It's over 100 mm above the semi-arid threshold, which is about 409 mm as opposed to the actual average of 541 mm. Summers aren't dry enough to be Mediterranean, though there is a marked Med influence.

It's solidly a Cfa (humid subtropical).
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Rochester, NY
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I don't see how it could be considered Mediterranean. The wettest winter month has a full 1.5 times the rainfall as the driest summer month. Jackson, MS, a clearly Cfa climate, has a winter month with 1.7 times as wet as the driest summer month. Also, the low sun season from April to September gets just 54.6% of the annual rainfall. That's very evenly distributed as it's hard to get excactly 50-50. Rochester gets 55.8% of its precipitation in the high sun season. I've never seen anyone ever say Rochester has a winter dry season.
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Old 03-09-2017, 10:05 AM
 
Location: 64'N Umeå, Sweden - The least bad Dfc
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I don't see how it could be considered Mediterranean. The wettest winter month has a full 1.5 times the rainfall as the driest summer month. Jackson, MS, a clearly Cfa climate, has a winter month with 1.7 times as wet as the driest summer month. Also, the low sun season from April to September gets just 54.6% of the annual rainfall. That's very evenly distributed as it's hard to get excactly 50-50. Rochester gets 55.8% of its precipitation in the high sun season. I've never seen anyone ever say Rochester has a winter dry season.
Yeah, I think it was a bit odd to question whether or not its a Cfa climate or not. Gothenburg or even my climate is closer to being mediterranean honestly.
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Old 03-09-2017, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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It's easily humid subtropical.
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Old 03-09-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I'll stick to my usual position, and say that it's a variant of Cfb climate.

Just about all of it's rain is from cold fronts -not a Cfa trait.

Could also be a Csa if it wasn't for the whole silly threshold thing, which puts the need to put climates in boxes ahead of seeking clarity on the root cause of any particular climate.

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I don't see how it could be considered Mediterranean. The wettest winter month has a full 1.5 times the rainfall as the driest summer month. Jackson, MS, a clearly Cfa climate, has a winter month with 1.7 times as wet as the driest summer month. Also, the low sun season from April to September gets just 54.6% of the annual rainfall. That's very evenly distributed as it's hard to get excactly 50-50. Rochester gets 55.8% of its precipitation in the high sun season. I've never seen anyone ever say Rochester has a winter dry season.
The obsession with thresholds, and viewing rainfall totals as more important than rain days, really can blind people to the true nature of a climate.

Jackson gets 9-10 days of rain during winter and 9-10 days of rain during summer, while Corowa gets 11 days during winter and 4.5 days during summer. Look at the relative humidity over the year between the two places -they don't look like fellow Cfa climates to me.

Corowa is essentially a Csa climate, with marauding cold fronts reaching there in summer (a Cfb trait).

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Old 03-09-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Yeah, I think it was a bit odd to question whether or not its a Cfa climate or not. Gothenburg or even my climate is closer to being mediterranean honestly.
You think?

Gothenburg averages 13.5 days of rain for each summer month and 14.5 days for each winter month. If you think that is somehow more Mediterranean than a place with 4.5 days in summer and 11 days in winter, then perhaps you need to get back to basics.
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