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Old 12-23-2015, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Lol, that is what North America does. You have to remember that basically North America is a Arctic/Subarctic continent.


It is very wide up at the Arctic, and then gets narrower as it goes south. I hate the geography of North America because of this. My dream continent would have Canada nothing but a huge cold ocean to the north. What a difference that would make when it came to anomalies. But that isn't going to happen, so for those of us that like "average", North America is a climate fail mostly.
come to think of it the weather we have been having this December has been more typical for places of our latitude than what a normal December would have been.
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Tornado warning in North Carolina right now. Severe watches for the Ozarks.







Kansas


National Weather Service Dodge City KS
459 AM CST WED DEC 23 2015

For Sunday into Monday, lots of snow and areas of blowing snow are
in the forecast with significant snow amounts still possible
across much of southwestern and into south central Kansas





National Weather Service Text Product Display
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:23 AM
 
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We're going to be above average right into the New Year, but not with the same anomalies that we have now



Unusually mild and stormy weather to lead into Christmas | Chicago Weather Center: Skilling's Forecast and Chicago Severe Weather Alerts


This looks like a map you would see in April not December. Line of severe storms by 2PM today.


https://twitter.com/Met_mdclark/stat...383084544?s=09

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Old 12-23-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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Next week look what happens. ... It starts to drop south, dipping in New England. SE Ridge still there but northern Jet not near Hudson Bay, its much south.

Then........ End of next week drops even further south. This seems to be a trend rather then a temporary thing.. So that means we should start seeing more cold and snow "chances" in the East

GFS dips a trough in the East with a few snow chances after Dec 31st,.. So looks like the Torch pattern is going Ba Bye.
The pattern is set to snap to a cold East configuration, as I expected - we'll be hearing heatmongers whining from coast to coast about a "dramatic pattern reversal" before long .

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Actual data for NYC. Departures have been 10+ above normal for many days this month. Not 1 below normal day. In fact if you click the link you'll see we haven't had 3 in a row below normal since Mid October.
This will certainly be one of the all-time warm Decembers in the period of record across a wide swath of the Northeast. That's what you get with a generally warm pattern for the East with the same spots getting prefrontal warm pushes over and over.

The geography of the Northeast imprisons winter weather - think about it. With a pattern of nothing but warm waves it feels akin to summer, whereas with a pattern of nothing but cold waves it feels merely properly wintry as opposed to, say, Yakutian weather. Properly wintry is not average for such places; the averages skew much warmer than that. When you start off with averages like that warmer than average leaves you thoroughly screwed.

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Lol, that is what North America does. You have to remember that basically North America is a Arctic/Subarctic continent.
Indeed - North America displays high continentality, and "extreme anomalies" (as in significant deviations from average for a whole month) are nothing unusual - thus they could in theory continue indefinitely, though odds are you'll get the odd average winter in there somewhere.

As for being "arctic/subarctic", give me a break - the southern third of the continent east of the Rockies routinely fails to drop below 60F in winter, which in my book means they barely have seasons at all. Although I will concede that North America does have more boreal forest as a share of landmass than any other continent.

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Guess where that storm is headed? What else is new.
Another snow event for the plains. What else is new.

The more intense a Lake Cutter is, the more intense the heat surge is in the East

https://twitter.com/TomNiziol/status/679436155348238336
Ooh...yet another Christmastide blizzard for Oklahoma. Not that they don't deserve a blizzard in December, but why can't that phenomenon ever come east? Very similar climate exists as far afield as Tennessee.
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Central New Jersey & British Columbia
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come to think of it the weather we have been having this December has been more typical for places of our latitude than what a normal December would have been.
There really is no such thing as "typical for the latitude" temps. The eastern half of a continent is always continental, with arctic air dipping south in winter and hot, humid air moving north in summer. Eastern North Anerica is very similar to eastern Eurasia, the only real analogue.

If you're comparing eastern North America to Western Europe or Western North America, of course it's more continental. That's typical of global circulation patterns.
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Upstate SC
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http://i.imgur.com/jVzsnW0.jpg
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Tornado warning in North Carolina right now. Severe watches for the Ozarks.







Kansas


National Weather Service Dodge City KS
459 AM CST WED DEC 23 2015

For Sunday into Monday, lots of snow and areas of blowing snow are
in the forecast with significant snow amounts still possible
across much of southwestern and into south central Kansas





National Weather Service Text Product Display
the local news cut good morning America to tell us. the storm is an 1 hr due south from my house things seem normal around here.
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
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Upgraded to moderate risk of severe. Memphis, TN in center of area at risk.



Tornado outlook. Some potential for intense tornadoes in the hatched area.

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Old 12-23-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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This looks like a map you would see in April not December. Line of severe storms by 2PM today.
I thought I would have to until April to see it. Excited for this! Looks like there many even be a few individual cells ahead of that line.
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Old 12-23-2015, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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At 5.54 am

Coldest: Ashburton at 4C and 94% RH
Warmest: Whangarei at 18C and 97% RH

Motueka: 7C and 78% RH, with clear calm conditions.

A number of sea level locations with chilly temperatures yesterday, with Lyttleton Harbour down to OC, after being in the Mid 30sC the day before.
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