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Old 12-26-2013, 10:42 PM
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Where's this?
San Francisco. The above photo link is from the last couple days of the forecast.
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Old 12-26-2013, 11:01 PM
 
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Humid subtropical climate zones also get very hot summers and quite freezing winters (they beat the Mediterranean climate with their colder winters). So that wasn't a good reason.

Okay, maybe there is more winter rain. But HS climates also have considerable amount of rainfall in the winter.

Humid Subtropical zones aren't really known for freezing winter, if so, they really wouldn't classify as subtropical.


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Most of them. Especially those in Europe and North America.

New York has hot summers and freezing winters with high amount of rainfall.

Charleston and Savannah have very hot summers and cool winters (with heavy rain not being uncommon).
New York City is not subtropical at all.

Charleston and Savannah are slightly warmer than Melbourne in winter(three coolest months average temps) which is not freezing, but are much warmer than Melbourne for the other three seasons.

According to BOM for Melbourne Airport, the three coolest months average 49.6F. The three coolest months at Charleston Airport average 51F and Savannah Airport 52F.
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Old 12-26-2013, 11:02 PM
 
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They're overrated if you expect them to be the tropics. I don't. If you actually want a season of 60 degree weather (or jacket weather mixed some T-shirt days) then they're not overrated at all. By December, I've gotten used to cold weather so much, 60-65 degrees seems like enough to me.

Agreed. They have a cool season, but not a freezing cold winter.
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Old 12-27-2013, 12:46 AM
 
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Humid Subtropical zones aren't really known for freezing winter, if so, they really wouldn't classify as subtropical.




New York City is not subtropical at all.
Well, NYC, under Koppen, is Cfa - Oh, I actually don't agree with it.

True, HS aren't known to have cold winters, although they're still cool. However, many Cfa's in Europe tend to have cold winters (beating Med winters).

That was my only point (for the OP).
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:07 AM
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the Mediterranean climates of Europe extend poleward more than most, so they have somewhat chilly winters. Go to more southerly Mediterranean climates and the winters are milder. at 42°N:

Rome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

36°N — Winters closer to coastal California at a similar latitude and somewhat close to the Bay Area

Tangier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-27-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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I only like med climates in the winter early spring and late fall. their summers are way too cold for me....It was 60 in San Diego one june and I prefer 90's and triple digits for at least 6 months out of the year.....preferably humid too like Houston Or Corpus.
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Old 12-27-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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^San Diego usually gets between 75-80F in summer. That June day was probably a day in late spring.
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Old 12-27-2013, 07:06 PM
 
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But, in general, Med climates are overrated for having the "best weather." The truth is, such a term is subjective at best. Some one may like the constant drizzle in Oceanic climates. Others may like the humidity and tropical-style downpours you see in Humid Subtropical climates, and in Tropical Climates. Still others may like the ice and snow of Polar climates.
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Old 12-27-2013, 07:30 PM
 
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Some one may like the constant drizzle in Oceanic climates
Drizzle isn't actually a feature of Oceanic climates, but of latitude and geography.. My own Oceanic climate features very little drizzle and plenty of downpours.

With parts of NZ getting 18000 mm/750 inches of rain during the wettest year, downpours are rather common , and aren't regarded as tropical, but normal weather.

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Old 12-28-2013, 04:40 AM
 
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In a word no. I don't think any northern Europeans travelling to the Med in the winter think they are going to the 'tropics', they are well aware of how warm it is there & they go there because it is a damn site warmer than northern Europe! 16C & sunshine is far better in my book than -5C & freezing rain, but each to his own I guess

Also winters in the Med are shorter & sunnier, despite receiving most of their annual rainfall during this time. Malta gets an average of 5-6 hours of sunshine a day in January & like in continental climates can also get periods of above average warmer weather (20C +) from time to time too, something which never happens in places like the UK...
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