Houston vs. Dallas (San Antonio, Austin, Arlington: gated community, apartment, condo)

[Jimmy1953]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

The stuff you posted in response didnt say anything....somtimes you mistake the word "Growing" for booming....not the same at all. If houston added just 1 single tech job. It would then have the right to write all the articles they want about a growing tech industry......but they just added 1 job.....get it?...probably not.

Houston is an oil city....just.face it....if it was as diverse as you paint it then you would be seeing more articles about all the other BOOMING Industries in Houston....instead Houston is mourning over all the job loss in the oil industry.

Houston is it's own worst enemy becoming a good much less a great city.

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by Jimmy1953

BEA releases its 2015 estimates in September 2016 reflecting the drop in oil prices of the recent past. You are not going to like your per capita numbers so much.

Yea , well remind us in August 2016

You have no idea what the 2015 numbers are going to look like. Of course in 15 months nobody will remember that you posted some vague reference to a survey that likely will show Houston still ahead of DFW in per capita income distribution. Keep dreaming

[Jimmy1953]

Originally Posted by Jack Lance

Yea , well remind us in August 2016

You have no idea what the 2015 numbers are going to look like. Of course in 15 months nobody will remember that you posted some vague reference to a survey that likely will show Houston still ahead of DFW in per capita income distribution. Keep dreaming

If oil prices are low Houston's economy will be a deflated mess. You know it, I know it, all know it.

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by Jimmy1953

If oil prices are low Houston's economy will be a deflated mess. You know it, I know it, all know it.

60$ a barrel is not low, its just lower than it was. If you look at historical average prices of oil in the first decade of this century you will see its actually higher now than it was during most of that decade, a decade when Houston's per capita income distribution was still greater than DFW. I knew that and now you know it too.

2000 $27.39 $37.54
2001 $23.00 $30.68
2002 $22.81 $29.92
2003 $27.69 $35.55
2004 $37.66 $47.04
2005 $50.04 $60.44
2006 $58.30 $68.
2007 $64.20 $72.98
2008 $91.48 $100.00
2009 $53.48 $58.75
2010 $71.21 $77.10

The first column is the actual historical price the second column is the inflation adjusted price.

Historical Oil Prices: InflationData.com

[Jimmy1953]

Originally Posted by Jack Lance

60$ a barrel is not low, its just lower than it was. If you look at historical average prices of oil in the first decade of this century you will see its actually higher now than it was during most of that decade, a decade when Houston's per capita income distribution was still greater than DFW. I knew that and now you know it too.

2000 $27.39 $37.54
2001 $23.00 $30.68
2002 $22.81 $29.92
2003 $27.69 $35.55
2004 $37.66 $47.04
2005 $50.04 $60.44
2006 $58.30 $68.
2007 $64.20 $72.98
2008 $91.48 $100.00
2009 $53.48 $58.75
2010 $71.21 $77.10

The first column is the actual historical price the second column is the inflation adjusted price.

Historical Oil Prices: InflationData.com

Time will tell. I bet on DFW,

[TexasTallest]

time will tell what? time has already told.. Houston will be fine. what about that S&P crisis that crippled Dallas in the 80s? don't act like Dallas isn't susceptible to economic downturns.. but unlike Dallas, Houstons specialties (energy and medicine) are two of the most important things to the human race.. you are foolish to bet on DFW.

[Soonhun]

Sorry for not reading the entire thread, but it's over a thousand pages.

Noe, on my opinion of the two cities. I don't care. I care more about comparing the metros, Greater Houston and the Metroplex. In my opinion they are both great cities that are similar but at the same time quite distinctive. There are some pros and consider but that is just for me, others likely might have a different opinion. I've spent considerably less time in Houston than I have in DFW but I spent at least a year there which I think is good.

One thing I love more about Houston is that it rains a lot. I absolutely love rain (of course not too much as has been happening), especially compared to the drought that recently emded, if I recall correctly. However, floods aside, it is much too humid for me, and I lived years in Seoul which is usually considered very humid but people still walk everywhere. It doesn't help that I have very sensitive skin that reacts very negatively to humidity.

Houston is technically more diverse but having lived in both it isn't very noticeable on the streets (unless you are in one of those old money areas that are usually dominated by White Americans). For personal reasons, being Korean American and primarily speaking the language, I prefer the Metroplex as there seems to be a larger Korean community. Or at least a more centralized one. Also going to squeeze this in here, I love the north Texas thunderstorms and tornados, but I know that's just me here being weird.

Two last things I prefer about the Metroplex, one is that it isn't as dominated by one city like Greater Houston. For the most part, or at least to a greater extent than in DFW, the suburbs of Houston really are suburbs and it felt like I had to go into Houston for many things. The Metroplex has two large cities, Dallas and Fort Worth, as well as many large suburbs, such as Denton, Irving, Plano, Arlington, Frisco, and Carrollton; unless you work in Dallas or attend school there you can live with never having to actually go into the city. Of course this is a negative to some, particular to "city purists" that argue, and are right, that DFW'S relative decentralization is what causes Dallas city's growth to be smaller than that of Houston, Austin, or San Antonio. Second thing is, I feel DFW has a more extensive public transportation system than Houston. As someone who hates driving I really appreciate that I can comfortably get around the region without a car, even though I do live in the suburbs.

That's just how I feel. That said, I love both areas and I don't believe this comparison is one where we can come in and just judge that one is objectively better than the other. Think of it this way, at least both are in Texas :P Also, sorry if I offended someone. I know some people do get passionate about their cities (who can blame them with the amount of hate both Houston and Dallas, as well as DFW, get on forums like this from some people), and I tried to make it clear that what I like in both are just my own views

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

time will tell what? time has already told.. Houston will be fine. what about that S&P crisis that crippled Dallas in the 80s? don't act like Dallas isn't susceptible to economic downturns.. but unlike Dallas, Houstons specialties (energy and medicine) are two of the most important things to the human race.. you are foolish to bet on DFW.

That's because Dallas' economy was primarily based on banking. A few banks that failed during the downturn were HQ'd in Dallas. Our economy is MUCH more diversified now. I can't say that about Houston...

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by Jimmy1953

Time will tell. I bet on DFW,

So true , time will tell, so we don't need anymore vague rhetorical taunts until the future arrives, ok?..

[TexasTallest]

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