Texas: A Shopping Paradise (Houston, Dallas: crimes, calculator, public transportation)
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All of this babble, and you STILL haven't proven anything
Show me PROOF that NPM is a bigger draw than Houston's Galleria.
Show me PROOF that ANY shopping district in DFW is blowing Houston's shopping districts out of the water, despite the latter having less exclusive stores. Because from what I'm able to find, the Galleria is a bigger draw per year than EVERY shopping district in DFW COMBINED.
Sure...the copy and paste method works just fine. ROD copied HPV and made it better, with even more potential on the way. It's the same way AT&T Stadium (son) copied NRG (Big Daddy) and made it better. That goes both ways
Your issue is that you tend to think that MORE is BETTER (although you claim not to)...and we both know that isn't the truth, lol. Take DART for instance...far more expansive than Houston's MetroRail, yet hardly ANYONE utilizes it...while Houston's system, while much smaller, gets much better utilization...and our bus system is doing even better.
You keep grasping at straws, and I'm not sure why. This is a subject that the vast majority of people couldn't care less about (as most people don't have the funds to shop at these luxurious places), yet you're the type who likes having it just to have it, although you'll never shop there personally. I guess I'm built differently...I'll likely never visit ROD barring some unforseen event, as I have no interest in what's being sold there. Maybe my wife will want to go someday...who knows?
"Get packed Melba!"
"What for Jeb?"
"Houston has world famous bus service!" Said Jeb dancing about the kitchen. "And they just expanded another freeway loop around the city"
"Yee haw! Cried Melba as she started stuffing her kids in suitcases.
Yeah...I totally agree.........About the GENERIC aesthetically designed R.O.D https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7411...!1e3?entry=ttu.........For it to be a "LUXURY" Shopping District it's very uninspiring and drab.......Dallas' "West Village" Shopping district looks more Posh-LUXURY than R.O.D......It's Just not memorable "Post-Card" ready.
"Highland Park Village" is Un-Matched in Texas.......Any way you slice it.
I can see the real downtown that being Uptown Dallas rising up soon to overtake them all! No one messes with Ms. Carolyn Rose Hunt and her masterpiece The Crescent! And that area just keeps growing getting thicker and thicker and thicker!
No other urban area in the south can compare to the place where Harwood meets up with the Crescent! Don't even try! Step off!!
"Get packed Melba!"
"What for Jeb?"
"Houston has world famous bus service!" Said Jeb dancing about the kitchen. "And they just expanded another freeway loop around the city"
"Yee haw! Cried Melba as she started stuffing her kids in suitcases.
"Get packed Wilma!"
"Why Fred??"
"Dallas has Texas' best rail system", yelled Fred as he fumbled around for his DART card, "And since NO ONE ELSE rides it, we'll have the darn thang all to ourselves! Isn't that romantic??"
"Well YABBA-DABBA-DOO FRED!! Let's get Betty and Barney to come along too!! That'll boost the ridership up to FOUR people!", Cried Wilma as she and Fred pedaled their way to one of Dallas' many isolated and sketchy DART stations.
Last edited by spacecitytx; 05-26-2023 at 10:51 AM..
"Dallas has Texas' best rail system", yelled Fred as he fumbled around for his DART card, "And since NO ONE ELSE rides it, we'll have the darn thang all to ourselves! Isn't that romantic??"
"Well YABBA-DABBA-DOO FRED!! Let's get Betty and Barney to come along too!! That'll boost the ridership up to FOUR people!", Cried Wilma as she and Fred pedaled their way to one of Dallas' many isolated and sketchy DART stations.
What isn't being factored into the DART system is how they can expand the system and increase ridership without additional laying down of rail by the addition of stations instead. For example, that warehouse area in Garland can be redeveloped in the future into apartments. As it is redeveloped,, they can add stations to it.
We must endeavor to keep the topic focused on Luxury retail however.
The North Texas market isn't different from the Houston market because it wants to be, but because it has to be. For example, consider the markets that feed into the suburb of Rockwall? There is about a million people living along I-20 between Shreveport LA. and Rockwall. There is another million living along I-30 between Little Rock Arkansas and Mesquite. Rockwall is fast becoming an affluent community. What has to be worrisome for HPV and Northpark Center is the building of a small luxury shopping center somewhere in that vicinity which will steal their business.
I-20 fifty years ago before the by-pass got built would back up because of traffic leading into Dallas. Consider that area today around Town East Mall where highway 80 and I-30 come together.
Check out a map.
I think this area will get its own luxury retail in the not so distant future.
I'm thinking this is why HPV has to be more competively priced than ROD in Houston.
spacecitytx;65334664]All of this babble, and you STILL haven't proven anything
Show me PROOF that NPM is a bigger draw than Houston's Galleria.
Show me PROOF that ANY shopping district in DFW is blowing Houston's shopping districts out of the water,despite the latter having less exclusive stores. Because from what I'm able to find, the Galleria is a bigger draw per year than EVERY shopping district in DFW COMBINED.
Sure...the copy and paste method works just fine. ROD copied HPV and made it better, with even more potential on the way. It's the same way AT&T Stadium (son) copied NRG (Big Daddy) and made it better. That goes both ways
Your issue is that you tend to think that MORE is BETTER (although you claim not to)...and we both know that isn't the truth, lol. Take DART for instance...far more expansive than Houston's MetroRail, yet hardly ANYONE utilizes it...while Houston's system, while much smaller, gets much better utilization...and our bus system is doing even better.
You keep grasping at straws, and I'm not sure why. This is a subject that the vast majority of people couldn't care less about (as most people don't have the funds to shop at these luxurious places), yet you're the type who likes having it just to have it, although you'll never shop there personally. I guess I'm built differently...I'll likely never visit ROD barring some unforseen event, as I have no interest in what's being sold there. Maybe my wife will want to go someday...who knows? [/QUOTE]
......Are you reading the same thread??
Show you PROOF?!.........You answered your own question sir...In your very next sentence.....Except you left out the part about it having LESS STORES PERIOD!!!....Less VARIETY spells "2nd Best"....... How can you say ALL combined and NP is #1 https://imp.world/explore/shopping-i...econd-thought/
Did you say grasping at straws and you compared NFL stadiums in a shopping thread battle that you have no chance to win?! NRG Stadium......Was never.....Is Never.......WILL NEVER be Daddy to AT&T Stadium.
All of the pouting at the end about DART and your shopping habits Bla Bla Bla means nothing for your argument because this is a thread about.......(Drum-roll).....LUXURY SHOPPING IN TEXAS......Your whining is not convincing..... All this says is your feelings are hurt......Face it....own it...embrace it...
Last edited by dallasboi; 05-26-2023 at 12:35 PM..
What isn't being factored into the DART system is how they can expand the system and increase ridership without additional laying down of rail by the addition of stations instead. For example, that warehouse area in Garland can be redeveloped in the future into apartments. As it is redeveloped,, they can add stations to it.
We must endeavor to keep the topic focused on Luxury retail however.
Lol...you're the one who went off topic with the whole Beverly Hillbillies thing.
I had only mentioned the transportation aspects in reply to dallasboi's "copy-cat" response. You took it to a whole other level.
The North Texas market isn't different from the Houston market because it wants to be, but because it has to be. For example, consider the markets that feed into the suburb of Rockwall? There is about a million people living along I-20 between Shreveport LA. and Rockwall. There is another million living along I-30 between Little Rock Arkansas and Mesquite. Rockwall is fast becoming an affluent community. What has to be worrisome for HPV and Northpark Center is the building of a small luxury shopping center somewhere in that vicinity which will steal their business.
I-20 fifty years ago before the by-pass got built would back up because of traffic leading into Dallas. Consider that area today around Town East Mall where highway 80 and I-30 come together.
Check out a map.
I think this area will get its own luxury retail in the not so distant future.
I'm thinking this is why HPV has to be more competively priced than ROD in Houston.
I'm not disputing any of this. I frankly don't care which metro area has the most luxurious shopping, as I don't care to buy any of that stuff. My responses are SOLEY in reply to the Dallas Booster sentiment about why their area is "better" than mine...which is absolutely ridiculous. I can GUARANTEE that if a survey was conducted on who actually gives a crap about luxury stores, 99% of the population would say that they don't own even one stitch of that clothing.
Show you PROOF?!.........You answered your own question sir...In your very next sentence.....Except you left out the part about it having LESS STORES PERIOD!!!....Less VARIETY spells "2nd Best"....... How can you say ALL combined and NP is #1 https://imp.world/explore/shopping-i...econd-thought/
Did you say grasping at straws and you compared NFL stadiums in a shopping thread battle that you have no chance to win???!!! NRG Stadium......Was never.....Is Never.......WILL NEVER be Daddy to AT&T Stadium.
All of the pouting at the end about DART and your shopping habits Bla Bla Bla means nothing for your argument because this is a thread about.......(Drum-roll).....LUXURY SHOPPING IN TEXAS......Your whining is not convincing..... All this says is your feelings are hurt......Face it....own it...embrace it...
Lol, THIS guy
You're like that annoying co-worker who hates to be wrong, so will go to the boss and complain about the next guy picking on him.
2nd best to WHOM?? The 1% of earth's population who actually can afford to BUY luxury clothes? Oh, okay...gotcha !
Bwhahahahahaha...so you're saying that ATT is NOT a direct rip-off of NRG, the FIRST NFL stadium with a retractable roof in America...among a bunch of OTHER firsts?? Yea, okay. Might wanna read up a bit...https://www.walterpmoore.com/projects/nrg-stadium. Talk about self-defeating!
Again...the rail sentiment was only brought up because you like to spout how "great" DFW's system is, when no one even utilizes the "Best Darn Public Transportation In Texas". Besides, I'm through with the luxury store debate, since everyone KNOWS that Houston's Galleria is KING in Texas...and AGAIN, that's DESPITE the Galleria having LESS luxury stores. The problem is that YOU'RE looking at the #1 spot as the place with the MOST stores...whereas I'm looking at the #1 spot as the place with the most VISITORS AND SALES..in which case the GALLERIA rules supreme!
Here’s a walking tour of HPV. He walks around the entire shopping center with a good amount of pedestrian traffic. You can see what I’m talking about when I say, it accommodates cars but it doesn’t prioritize them. Just look how easily anyone can walk from shop to shop. It’s still built within human scale. The parking lot redo is partially complete but you can also see it’s now curb less at 7:25.
You can walk from shop to shop at HPV. However it’s environment isn’t the type of walkable environment that ROD is.
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Originally Posted by Spade
I mean eh...The only thing I will say is that HPV is far more interesting architecturally as ROD is boring in its design. But for pedestrians, ROD still is superior.
I agree. HPV while not as walkable of an environment as ROD does have the more interesting architecture overall. The replacement of the concrete compliments HPV much better
However there is one catch here. Due to the way HPV is structured, it looks more or less the same from end to end.
ROD on the other hand lets each store designate their look and architecture individually lined up. More along the lines of what you see in 5th Ave/Rodeo. Each store has their unique structure that exhibits the look of the brand (better for post cards).
L The 1% of earth's population who actually can afford to BUY luxury clothes? Oh, okay...gotcha !
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Meh. I’m not a 1%er but I have a collection of accessories. Not the biggest in the world but enough to go around. You don’t have to be a 1%er to shop from time to time.
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Yeah...I totally agree.........About the GENERIC aesthetically designed R.O.D 
.........For it to be a "LUXURY" Shopping District it's very uninspiring and drab.......Dallas' "West Village" Shopping district looks more Posh-LUXURY than R.O.D...
Show you PROOF?!.........You answered your own question sir...In your very next sentence.....Except you left out the part about it having LESS STORES PERIOD!!!
....Less VARIETY spells "2nd Best"
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