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Old 07-31-2021, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Simon Biles put her well-being over the results of a competition.

Good for her.

And to hell with the irrelevant finger-wagging nobodies who have somehow deluded themselves into thinking that this spectacle has squat to do with 'the team' or 'country' - they've gullibly swallowed the marketing hook, line and sinker.
Exactly. We're not in the USSR or GDR. American athletes don't win medals for a government that paid for their training and competition expenses. They don't owe the American public any gold medals, either. Jane and John Doe's life doesn't change bacause any athlete from their country won an Olympic gold medal.

But funny how the right wingnuts seem to be in love with the philosophy of the Communist sports machine all of a sudden. Push athletes until they break (sometimes literally), and don't give them the right to say when enough is enough.

They couldn't even decide their own futures in professional sports after they stopped competing. GDR's Katerina Witt wanted to skate professionally once she retired from competition, and the East German government said that IF she won a 2nd Olympics in 1988 (she had won in 1984), they "would consider her request." If not, forget it. Her coach's daughter, Gabby Seyfert, who had won the silver behind Peggy Fleming in 1968, had wanted to turn pro, and they didn't let her, because they didn't believe in the idea of sports as entertainment. Sports were meant for political means, to prove that the Communist system was superior to the Capitalist system. She retired without going to the 1972 Games, which she probably would have won, and became a coach.

I thought we in the USA were supposed to be anti-Communism, hmmmmm????

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Old 07-31-2021, 08:46 AM
 
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I thought we in the USA were supposed to be anti-Communism, hmmmmm????

I think there's a massive segment of society today that probably have more in common with communists than you want to admit or are aware of.





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Exactly. We're not in the USSR or GDR. American athletes don't win medals for a government that paid for their training and competition expenses. They don't owe the American public any gold medals, either. Jane and John Doe's life doesn't change bacause any athlete from their country won an Olympic gold medal.

But funny how the right wingnuts seem to be in love with the philosophy of the Communist sports machine all of a sudden. Push athletes until they break (sometimes literally), and don't give them the right to say when enough is enough.

They couldn't even decide their own futures in professional sports after they stopped competing. GDR's Katerina Witt wanted to skate professionally once she retired from competition, and the East German government said that IF she won a 2nd Olympics in 1988 (she had won in 1984), they "would consider her request." If not, forget it. Her coach's daughter, Gabby Seyfert, who had won the silver behind Peggy Fleming in 1968, had wanted to turn pro, and they didn't let her, because they didn't believe in the idea of sports as entertainment. Sports were meant for political means, to prove that the Communist system was superior to the Capitalist system. She retired without going to the 1972 Games, which she probably would have won, and became a coach.

Well what is the reason that she backed out?

"Twisties"?
She was "raped"?
Or "mental health"?

Or are there more excuses you guys want to throw at the dart board, to see what sticks?
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Old 07-31-2021, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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I think there's a massive segment of society today that probably have more in common with communists than you want to admit or are aware of.
This thread, and the one in P&OC are proof of that, obviously. I wonder how well some of the posters here actually remember the Cold War from a sport POV?



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Well what is the reason that she backed out?

"Twisties"?
She was "raped"?
Or "mental health"?

Or are there more excuses you guys want to throw at the dart board, to see what sticks?
How about posting a response that actually addresses what I wrote in the segment that you quoted?

Typical response from someone with no valid counter argument.
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Old 07-31-2021, 10:07 AM
 
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Well what is the reason that she backed out?

"Twisties"?
She was "raped"?
Or "mental health"?

Or are there more excuses you guys want to throw at the dart board, to see what sticks?
What if you were repeatedly raped as a young child/teen? Don't you think that could cause you some mental health issues in later years?
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Old 07-31-2021, 12:33 PM
 
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repeatedly raped ?
Was she repeatedly raped by Nassar, or was there other abuse by other people prior to him? Did he actually rape her? I guess abuse is abuse, but we should at least try to be accurate about our terms here (I think rape is different from sexual abuse - though I am sure both bring with them trauma no matter).


I don't know what to say about it - it seems she excelled and won quite a lot after Nassar got his hands on her.



I'm ready to move on from her in this thread. I've said I am disappointed that she withdrew - I don't like when people who don't have legitimate mental health issues use it as a crutch to get out of responsibility. Not much more to say about it and like you all said, she couldn't care less about a person like me thinks about her. She is worth millions and I likely never will be, so she will be just fine I reckon.
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Old 07-31-2021, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Etobicoke
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Belinda Bencic did what Martina Hingis could not do in the Olympics, win singles Gold!
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Old 07-31-2021, 01:06 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG0CBsw150A
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Old 07-31-2021, 03:41 PM
 
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Watching this USA men's basketball team. Have to wonder - they are probably the least diverse team in the history of basketball (since I am guessing every single member of the team identifies as "black").


So much for "diversity is our strength", eh?
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Old 07-31-2021, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Watching this USA men's basketball team. Have to wonder - they are probably the least diverse team in the history of basketball (since I am guessing every single member of the team identifies as "black").


So much for "diversity is our strength", eh?
What a strange take. Do you think anyone on the Serbian roster identifies as anything other than “white”?

On another note, Shacarri Richardson really needs to stay off Twitter when she smokes.
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Old 07-31-2021, 04:28 PM
 
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What a strange take. Do you think anyone on the Serbian roster identifies as anything other than “white”?

On another note, Shacarri Richardson really needs to stay off Twitter when she smokes.
You missed my point(s), completely.
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