Greenville, SC vs Columbia, SC vs Charleston, SC (lawyer, schools)
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BTW, I thought this argument was supposed to be shut down by now. So whats the excuse? Since the 2000 census I thought Charleston was supposed to be the gorilla that no one could challenge, and Greenville was supposed to be almost as significant as Charlotte, what happened? Why is this still an issue? If those cities are supposed to be the spearhead then why haven't they lived up to expectations? Why isnt SC the New South powerhouse it is supposed to be? Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, DC, Houston, and Dallas can seem to lead there states into the next economic frontier. What's wrong with Greenville, and Charleston? Sure I get it subjectively everyone is a homer, I voted for Columbia go check it out, allow it to blow your mind, but consider the facts. Economic growth, population growth, etc... Why hasn't Greenville, or Charleston accelerated above and beyond, why are we still having this conversation? Why should people from Columbia assume that the Midlands is not as viable, when in most objective metrics it is either on par with Charleston and Greenville, or above it? Shopping, and food attractions are we that easily appeased and willing to pat ourselves on the back? The state who£es itself out so that another company can locate here instead of Mexico and that is considered a win? How low does the bar have to be set so that we can feel superior? I've been a member of this site for a little over half a decade and its the same lame argument. One can look up any of our greatest hits in this forum It's quite pathetic. Who's growing the fastest, who's bigger, who got what shi!!y fill in the ________ first. Typically most rebuttals start with your just jealous because _____! Well again Iv'e saved you the time just fill in the blank. Isn't there anything more to be in SC?......I'm still waiting to hear it....
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And to continue with my previous post, and address all the critics (because I know your reading) burning question "what about Columbia", (Okay I get it because Ive got your attention now you want to hold it accountable, sure why not). Of note As a disclaimer I will refer to this post whenever Columbia is brought for a challenge in any future post. Okay, let's hear it!
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BTW, I thought this argument was supposed to be shut down by now. So whats the excuse? Since the 2000 census I thought Charleston was supposed to be the gorilla that no one could challenge, and Greenville was supposed to be almost as significant as Charlotte, what happened? Why is this still an issue? If those cities are supposed to be the spearhead then why haven't they lived up to expectations? Why isnt SC the New South powerhouse it is supposed to be? Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, DC, Houston, and Dallas can seem to lead there states into the next economic frontier. What's wrong with Greenville, and Charleston? Sure I get it subjectively everyone is a homer, I voted for Columbia go check it out, allow it to blow your mind, but consider the facts. Economic growth, population growth, etc... Why hasn't Greenville, or Charleston accelerated above and beyond, why are we still having this conversation? Why should people from Columbia assume that the Midlands is not as viable, when in most objective metrics it is either on par with Charleston and Greenville, or above it? Shopping, and food attractions are we that easily appeased and willing to pat ourselves on the back? The state who£es itself out so that another company can locate here instead of Mexico and that is considered a win? How low does the bar have to be set so that we can feel superior? I've been a member of this site for a little over half a decade and its the same lame argument. One can look up any of our greatest hits in this forum It's quite pathetic. Who's growing the fastest, who's bigger, who got what shi!!y fill in the ________ first. Typically most rebuttals start with your just jealous because _____! Well again Iv'e saved you the time just fill in the blank. Isn't there anything more to be in SC?......I'm still waiting to hear it....
Same old boring arguments...nothing never changes, while SC is the laughing stock when it comes to being progressive or offering at least one new south city...Folks are so ready to argue on here about the same ish. Don't offer anything new...smh
Columbia just keeps on keeping on. It hasn't even gone out of its way to sell itself but still keeps pace with the other two. It minds its own business and doesn't look for every opportunity to insinuate bad things about the other two, neither blatantly nor subtly.
I think Greenville has progressed very well considering it isn't government based, doesn't have a big college, and isn't on the coast. It just keeps progressing regardless. One could argue that it should be way behind Columbia and Charleston. For a place without those things, quality of life here is right up there.
I think Greenville has progressed very well considering it isn't government based, doesn't have a big college, and isn't on the coast. It just keeps progressing regardless. One could argue that it should be way behind Columbia and Charleston. For a place without those things, quality of life here is right up there.
Red, you are ignoring one huge fact touted by your chamber of commerce on every possible publication/website, Greenville sits on I85 between Charlotte and Atlanta. Greenville should be growing faster based on that alone. All of this other crying about no college etc...is crap. Clemson is in the Greenville MSA and has a large presence in Greenville, didn't the developers of One just give them 70k sq feet for almost nothing. I think your argument is overstated.
BTW, I thought this argument was supposed to be shut down by now. So whats the excuse? Since the 2000 census I thought Charleston was supposed to be the gorilla that no one could challenge, and Greenville was supposed to be almost as significant as Charlotte, what happened? Why is this still an issue? If those cities are supposed to be the spearhead then why haven't they lived up to expectations? Why isnt SC the New South powerhouse it is supposed to be? Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, DC, Houston, and Dallas can seem to lead there states into the next economic frontier. What's wrong with Greenville, and Charleston? Sure I get it subjectively everyone is a homer, I voted for Columbia go check it out, allow it to blow your mind, but consider the facts. Economic growth, population growth, etc... Why hasn't Greenville, or Charleston accelerated above and beyond, why are we still having this conversation? Why should people from Columbia assume that the Midlands is not as viable, when in most objective metrics it is either on par with Charleston and Greenville, or above it? Shopping, and food attractions are we that easily appeased and willing to pat ourselves on the back? The state who£es itself out so that another company can locate here instead of Mexico and that is considered a win? How low does the bar have to be set so that we can feel superior? I've been a member of this site for a little over half a decade and its the same lame argument. One can look up any of our greatest hits in this forum It's quite pathetic. Who's growing the fastest, who's bigger, who got what shi!!y fill in the ________ first. Typically most rebuttals start with your just jealous because _____! Well again Iv'e saved you the time just fill in the blank. Isn't there anything more to be in SC?......I'm still waiting to hear it....
This is mostly attributable to the state of SC and its priorities and not the cities themselves. I think that Charleston, Columbia, and Greenville make due given what they have to work with. However, until the state puts a real focus on education and developing a highly skilled South Carolinian workforce, the state will continue to lag. SC has the highest tuition for its public colleges and universities in the South with among the lowest level of contributions from the state. This corresponds inversely with the quality of these institutions when compared to neighboring states. Yet something as simple as creating a board of regents to oversee the public institutions in the state would go a long way towards improving their quality, but it's something the state has yet to implement for whatever reason.
This is mostly attributable to the state of SC and its priorities and not the cities themselves. I think that Charleston, Columbia, and Greenville make due given what they have to work with. However, until the state puts a real focus on education and developing a highly skilled South Carolinian workforce, the state will continue to lag. SC has the highest tuition for its public colleges and universities in the South with among the lowest level of contributions from the state. This corresponds inversely with the quality of these institutions when compared to neighboring states. Yet something as simple as creating a board of regents to oversee the public institutions in the state would go a long way towards improving their quality, but it's something the state has yet to implement for whatever reason.
You are going to fall out of your chair but, I agree with you. The universities in this state are very underfunded and policies governing the schools are too political. For instance, tuition at state schools in SC are very different. I think Clemson has the highest tuition of any public school in the south and the difference between it and other state schools is the largest in the south. While I don't think it will ever happen, the state should have an oversight board similar to other states.
This does make it harder for cities in SC to attract and retain talent. Neighboring state have easily passed SC and they have done it by properly funding schools and competing for creative class jobs. SC is content to offer the "we are lowest cost" argument that does well in some regards like a Boeing but it also holds the state back in attracting high paying positions. Some of my friends in other states have looked at moving to SC but won't because of the big pay cut assuming they can even find a similar job.
Columbia just keeps on keeping on. It hasn't even gone out of its way to sell itself but still keeps pace with the other two. It minds its own business and doesn't look for every opportunity to insinuate bad things about the other two, neither blatantly nor subtly.
I think Greenville has progressed very well considering it isn't government based, doesn't have a big college, and isn't on the coast. It just keeps progressing regardless. One could argue that it should be way behind Columbia and Charleston. For a place without those things, quality of life here is right up there.
Yeah, actually a lot of people here wouldn't want to live in Columbia or Charleston.
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