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The hypothesis that you seem to be claiming in this thread is that US sports teams name their teams after their region rather than for marketing purposes.
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Absolutely not the hypothesis I'm presenting .... it is marketing ... what I am saying is that it makes more sense from a marketing standpoint to tie in with your community than to simply copycat something that doesn't make any sense
There are many different ways that teams get names and it will also depend on when they were formed .... the 4 major themes in the US are color, animal, region or tribal/warrior
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Are some of the names of MLS teams dumb? Yes. But, that is the case for every other professional league in the US too whether they are named after their region or not. To nitpick MLS is completely inaccurate and unfair. I would much rather have my team named Dallas FC than Minnesota Wild or Cincinnati Bengals. At least Dallas FC sounds more professional and allows the fans to choose a nickname of their own which is how the oldest teams in the world have done it.
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Again - you seem to think that I am blasting MLS and not saying that other teams have some bad names .... not the case at all. A bad name is a bad name - I even mentioned in this thread that all sports have their share
As for your list:
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The Buffalo Bills was named after Buffalo Bill Cody who had nothing to do with Buffalo NY.
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Professional football went under a few names - primarily Bison like most of the sports teams in the city - the AAFC team wanted something more distinct from their counterparts, so they held a name the team contest ..... it was a fan submitted play on words and tied into how Buffalo was going to frontier the new history of Buffalo sports .... when the AFL (now NFL) team came through they also did a name contest and the fans chose to stick with the Bills based on their history ...... I think it's a dopey name, but it does make sense
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The Washington Wizards? WTF? What do Wizards have to do with DC?
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This franchise was the Chicago Packer, then Chicago Zephrys and then moved and became the Baltimore Bullets - the team moved to Washington and kept the name for decades until Bullets fell out of fashion, at which point they chose Wizards through a name the team contest against Dragons, Express, Stallions or Sea Dogs - the Bullets moniker came from the Bata Bullets shoes that were made nearby, plus Bullets are fast and dangerous which works for sports (or at least at a time)
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Minnesota Wild? That sounds like something a 12 year old would name a team they made on Madden.
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As described above the Wild have a lot of connection to the characterstics of MN - most of which is displayed in their logo ... this franchise also taps strongly into the MN hockey history having every HS sweater on display in their stadium and heavily marketing themselves as "The State of Hockey"
This was another where there was a lot of fan input - the other finalists were Blue Ox, Freeze, Northern Lights, Voyageurs & White Bears ... all very minnesotan
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Golden State Warriors?
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Philadelphia Warriors - generic tribal name, which fits the history of the Delaware Valley
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Toronto Raptors?
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Just a horrible name with no rhyme or reason ... almost as bad as the Mighty Ducks
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Portland Trailblazers was picked out of name contest entries
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This name makes perfect sense for the area as Portland was the end of the Oregon trail which is very important in the history of the region and the nation. The leading candidate was Pioneers (same general thought) but it was already used by a college
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Dallas Mavericks were named after a TV show that one of the owners was on
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James Garner was a very small part of the ownership group. Also a "maverick" is more than a TV program. This is another one where there was a fan contest and Maverick won beating out Wranglers & Express. The former basketball team in Dallas were the Chaparrals which became the SA Spurs. Other teams have used the term Maverick and Samuel Maverick played a solid role in TX history, signing the TX Declaration of Independence, and the term "maverick" meaning an unbranded cattle or someone who is independent minded comes from his attributes
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New York Jets?
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The Titans of New York were sold off in a bankruptcy proceeding and changed their name - the candidates were Dodgers, Boros & Gothoms .... they wanted something modern, sleek and fast - plus they played on the fact that the new stadium was located between the 2 airports
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Cleveland Browns - named after their head coach and founder who left and started the Bengals which brings us too...
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Browns was a fan driven thing as well - given his popularity in the area, especially as the Ohio State coach
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Cincinatti Bengals - what do tigers have to do with Cincinnati? They were named that way so they could use the old Browns uniforms with a cool new design they thought would sell more jerseys.
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Generic animal name - ties into the first professional football team in Cincy - wasn't looking to sell more jerseys ... cleveland and cincy are pretty big rivals, he was most likely looking to spite Art Modell who he really didn't like
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Tennessee Titans - I personally like the name but nothing to do with the region and named because they thought it sounded good.
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They were the Houston Oilers, which is obvious .... as mentioned, Titans does fit with the "Athens of the South" that is Nashville
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New York Rangers - they are named after their owner which had the nickname Tex and he liked the Texas Rangers so they are not only not named after their region but because of the owner liked a name from another region.
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definitely not named after the baseball team as mentioned - the owner was "Tex Rickard" and those were his "Rangers" - Tex's Rangers, a play on the Texas Rangers outfit of the time
Teams by and large though have some kind of connection to the area and it is done for marketing - it connects to the fans
In American sports teams have moved so much that some of the names don't fit their current area - although they did at a time.
The Atlanta Hawks were the Tri-City Blackhawks - shortened to hawks when they moved to Milwaukee and kept as they made their way to Atlanta
Boston Celtics - play to the Irish population in Boston
Charolotte Bobcats - there are bobcats in the carolinas, however many think it was an ego play by the owner (named Robert/Bob) or a ploy to play on the other cat names in the area .... Charlotte Flight was in the running and would have been better, IMO
Chicago Bulls - stockyard history in Chicago
Cleveland Cavaliers - fan vote - not a strong connection, but voted over other names that had more local meaning
Denver Nuggets - ties to Colorado gold rush
Detroit Pistons - made perfect sense as the Fort Wayne Zollner Pistons named after the owners piston mfg company in the Indiana town - shortened to Pistons the name still fit in the motor city, one of the rare moves that still worked
Houston Rockets - in SD the name played on the city theme and they were mfg liquid fueled Atlas rockets, however it made the even rarer jump of becomming a perfect fit when they moved to Houston
Indiana Pacers - direct tie to Indy
LA Clippers - doesn't work as well as the SD Clippers (which changed from the Braves when the team moved from Buffalo to SD)
LA Lakers - a move that makes no sense, but it fit perfectly in the land of 10,000 lakes as the Mpls Lakers
Memphis Grizzlies - definitely a fit into the Pac NW with Vancouver and their history - there was a short lived CFL team in the 40s that went by the Vancouver Grizzlies as well
Miami Heat - yeah.......
Milwaukee Bucks - another name the team winner and there is a big hunting culture in WI
MN Timberwolves - fan contests - Blizzard was the most popular, but Timber Wolves ruled the day - the wolves are unique to MN
NJ Nets - well at least it's basketball related - they tried to play on the Mets & Jets and they've never had any success, the brand has been a long loser
NO Hornets - fan vote in Charlotte after the original name created an outrage - this is changing to Pelicans which will tie into NO
NY Nnickerbockers - ties into the dutch settlers of NY
Seattle Super Sonics - ties into Boeing and Seattles status as "The Jet City"
Oklahoma City Thunder - beat out other Okie related names
Orlando Magic - ties into their tourism and the Magic Kingdom ... would have been cool if Challengers made it through tough as a tribute to those atronauts
Philadelphia 76ers - pretty obvious
Phoenix Suns - obvious - beat out scorpions, thunderbirds, rattlers and a host of others
Sacramento Kings - started out as the Rochester Royals - no signifigance I can find and I'm from that area
San Antonio Spurs - definitely ties in
Utah Jazz - definitely should have changed when they moved from New Orleans
As you can see the majority of NBA teams have ties to their area (or at least they did upon their inception) ... you can find a logical link for the vast majority of american professional sports teams, because it makes good marketing sense
The ones that did something generic or worse trendy often have had dismal marketing success (i'm looking at you raptors, mighty ducks, nets, bobcats, etc)