Coronavirus positives in Bradenton and Hillsborough Counties (professionals, beach)
Sarasota - Bradenton - Venice areaManatee and Sarasota Counties
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Ohio will be locked down as of Tuesday. Ohio's hospitalizations adjusted for population are slightly less than in Florida, but Ohio hospitalizations are growing more rapidly (it's possible that Ohio is admitting more patients with less severe conditions as Ohio has expanded Medicaid and Florida does not). Deaths adjusted for population are much higher in Florida, but death totals in both states (3 and 13) are inconsequential compared to likely levels in 2-4 weeks.
The Ohio lockdown seemingly will close most non-essential retail, non-emergency doctor appointments and non-essential medical testing (these last two items seem remarkable if closed given what remains open). It will result in another significant hit to the Ohio economy. Many day care centers will be closed.
Floridians perhaps should prepare for a similar lockdown in coming days and weeks. Gardeners buy your supplies now! Unfortunately, plants are not yet available in most Ohio garden centers as the beginning of planting season is one week away.
Florida's media apparently is increasingly targeting FL Gov. Ron DeSantis for inadequate action in the current epidemic.
BTW, what was this about? Strange in the midst of the worse national healthcare crisis in a century and when first responders and healthcare workers increasingly are at personal risk, as are their families, due to inadequate personal protection equipment. Shortages of testing supplies, ventilators, and even hospital rooms increasingly threaten the nation's ability to respond to this crisis.
<<Friday, DeSantis mounted the bully pulpit to present House Speaker Jose Oliva, with a baseball bat inscribed with the words “Slayer of the healthcare industrial complex.”
If COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths in Florida begin their expected exponential rise, it would seem inevitable that Florida also will impose a lockdown on its citizens. Floridians should prepare for this event.
The nation's ability to deal with this crisis would increase immeasurably IF we could rapidly increase testing. E.g., we could allow medical personnel who test negatively to continue wellness visits with patients who have tested negatively within a few days, IF wellness visits, like dental appointments, cancer treatment, etc., are banned during lockdowns. Wellness visits are extremely important to the nation's health.
I'm going to make an appointment with my doctor for late June tomorrow in the event that my early April appointment is cancelled.
Fauci’s great failing is that he doesn’t believe testing is a viable bulwark against rising infection rates
He is so wrong
But maybe he has that idea because he knows the US can’t test and treat
That doing so would take resources that need to be allocated for treating people with serious cases
President Trump on Sunday night said that the government would reassess the recommended period for keeping businesses shut and millions of workers at home after this week, amid millions of job losses caused by the efforts to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus.
“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” Mr. Trump tweeted in all capital letters shortly before midnight. “AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!”
DeSantis said it was evidence against lock-down orders. “For every action, there’s a reaction,” he said.
Gov. Ron DeSantis said he still doesn’t want to lock down Florida in an effort to contain the coronavirus, saying the state has seen a “huge amount” of New Yorkers flying in since that city issued stay-at-home orders.
DeSantis said New York’s experience is further evidence that trying to contain people, a top recommendation of top health officials, can backfire.
“If you look at what happened in New York, when they did the stay at home order, what did people do?” DeSantis said Monday morning. “Well, a lot of people fled the city. ... We’re getting huge amounts of people flying in.”
Meanwhile in Florida, might be time to take another look The Walking Dead...Netflixs' Containment mirrors the present & TWD will show you the reality that may come.
So how do you'll feel about governor DeSantis refusing to lockdown Florida, and president Trump leaning towards loosening coronavirus restrictions? It looks like they're caught between a rock and a hard place in trying to flatten the curve of coronavirus while also trying to save the economy. And currently they are leaning towards saving the economy.
My own personal feeling is that in order to flatten the curve for the spread of coronavirus - the restrictions must remain strict. Unfortunately it's like the famous saying "No Pain - No Gain". If Trump loosens restrictions IMO we'll see a short term bounce in the stock market - but longer term it could have dire health consequences. If there was currently a proven treatment for a coronavirus cure - then loosening restrictions could make more sense.
At least people that flee New York for the "freedom" of Florida will be required to self-quarantine for 14 days. But I'm not sure how they plan on enforcing it?
"DeSantis said he would be issuing an executive order that would require anyone on a New York flight to self-quarantine for 14 days. Violating the quarantine would be criminal, he said."
"President Trump on Monday said he is considering scaling back steps to constrain the spread of the coronavirus in the next week or two due to concerns that the impact on the economy has become too severe.
But loosening restrictions on social distancing and similar measures soon would likely require him to override the internal warnings of senior U.S. health officials, including Anthony S. Fauci, who have said that the United States has not yet felt the worst of the pandemic, according to several people with knowledge of the internal deliberations."
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South Korea has been very successful in their fight against Covid19 and has the lowest deaths among all countries with huge Covid19 infections. And they were the only country that didn't enact sweeping lock-down.
A few major things they do that we don't:
- They encourage everyone to wear a mask in public to limit exposure to bad germs. They can afford to do this because they don't have any shortage in medical supplies. I suspect CDC knew from early on that we don't have enough masks for everyone, so we're told only health professionals and sick people need to wear masks.
- They have no shortage of Covid19 testing sites (including drive through) and testing kits. You get a result within 4-6 hours of testing, you'll get a text if you're tested negative, and a phone call if you're tested positive so they can tell you what to do and where to go next.
- They track everyone via their cell phone, and if they're tested positive and still go out and about, all the other people near them will get notifications on their cell phone for awareness. I don't see this being adopted in the US - due to privacy and all that.
All of the above pointed to preparation and an army of workers doing and producing all things related to Covid19: health professionals, labs who process the tests, manufacture assembly workers who produce medical supplies for everyone who needs it, supply chain workers who deliver all necessary items such as food and medical supplies, etc, etc.
If the shutdown continues, we will continue to have shortage of everything. Not to mention the ramification of the economy fall out. I don't even want to look at my 401k right now, and I'm fine not looking because I still have 10+ years to let it sit and recover. But for those who are nearing retirement and don't have the luxury of time, what's going to happen to them? They may survive Covid19 but with no money left to retire. I remember suicide rates jumped significantly in 2008 - 2009 because people lost their jobs and couldn't pay the bills, lost their house, etc. This will happen again if the shut down continues indefinitely. The supposedly $1200 check from the government can only tide you over for so long (1-2 weeks top) but you're still not able to work (or find work), no money coming in, etc, etc.
And so, Trump will have to come out with middle ground way to deal with this, with risks involved on both health and economy.
(CNN)After President Donald Trump made clear during Monday night's press briefing that he plans to lift his self-isolating guidelines soon, aides are scrambling for a compromise option that will avoid what health officials say would be a disaster: advising all Americans to return to normal life.
The discussions include a phased system based on age or geographic location, according to officials.
One option of a phased system that would see younger people -- potentially under 40, according to one option -- return to the workplace or business first, followed gradually by people slightly older until most of the country is back to normal.
Another option being considered is keeping in place restrictions only on vulnerable people and senior citizens, including on nursing homes, but allowing others to return as a group.
A third plan being considered would have Trump lift the federal guidelines but explicitly endorse individual governors acting however they see fit for their own states, including saying that some states should remain under stricter orders than others.
A fourth idea is to keep in place some federal guidelines but change others to allow states more leeway, so that places where the outbreak isn't as severe can open.
One other idea is to target specific types of workers to return to work, including people who drive themselves and don't work in large groups.
This article from the Washington Post today is the best, most detailed article I've seen about the debate on opening back up the economy (soon). Gives viewpoints from both sides of the fence. It's a good read:
With President Trump saying he wants “the country opened” by Easter to salvage the U.S. economy, a fierce debate is now raging among policymakers over the necessity of shutting down vast swaths of American society to combat the novel coronavirus.
As mentioned in the article Bill Gates came out with a blunt response:
While not mentioning the president by name, Bill Gates — who co-founded Microsoft and now leads a global health foundation — rebuked Trump’s approach in a Tuesday interview with TED: “There really is no middle ground, and it’s very tough to say to people: ‘Hey, keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner. We want you to keep spending because there’s maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth is all that counts.’”
There are anecdotal reports from hospitals in New York and from China - that large doses of vitamin C have a positive effect on coronavirus symptoms. However this isn't officially "proven" yet in medical circles. A clinical trial on the effectiveness of intravenous vitamin C on coronavirus patients began Feb. 14 at Zhongnan Hospital in Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the pandemic. Results will be known in September.
Seriously sick coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system are being given massive doses of vitamin C — based on promising reports that it’s helped people in hard-hit China, The Post has learned.
Dr. Andrew G. Weber, a pulmonologist and critical-care specialist affiliated with two Northwell Health facilities on Long Island, said his intensive-care patients with the coronavirus immediately receive 1,500 milligrams of intravenous vitamin C.
Identical amounts of the powerful antioxidant are then readministered three or four times a day, he said.
The regimen is based on experimental treatments administered to people with the coronavirus in Shanghai, China, Weber said.
“The patients who received vitamin C did significantly better than those who did not get vitamin C,” he said.
“It helps a tremendous amount, but it is not highlighted because it’s not a sexy drug.”
I'm tryting to be objective - there's early indications that vitamin C might help - but currently the "official stance" from the medical organizations is that it's not yet "scientifically proven" to work on coronavirus:
A research team at Zhongnan Hospital in Wuhan, China, began a study on vitamin C treatments for COVID-19 on Feb. 14. The program is expected to be completed at the end of September. No findings have been published.
“Although vitamin C does have some small effect on the common cold, it’s unlikely that taking large amounts of vitamin C supplements will cure a COVID-19 infection — or have a large effect at all,” wrote Peter McCaffery, a professor of biochemistry at the University of Aberdeen, for The Conversation.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average posted its largest one-day point gain on record Tuesday, as investors looked forward to a $2 trillion stimulus package agreed to by senior lawmakers and the Trump administration early Wednesday morning.
But worrying technical indicators and continued uncertainty regarding the COVID-19 pandemic will make this equities rally short lived, according to Mark Newton, a closely followed independent technical analyst.
Newton invoked the old adage “don’t fight the Fed” in his analysis of the situation. The federal government is willing to spend such extraordinary sums of money and the Federal Reserve has committed to limitless purchases of U.S. government debt and mortgage-backed securities, while providing relief to the corporate and municipal bond markets as well.
“It goes without saying that the firepower here is unlike anything we’ve seen before,” and likely to boost the stock market, in the near term, he wrote.
Looking at market statistics, however, he worries that this rally will ultimately be short-lived. He pointed to a tool of technical analysis called the Elliot Wave Theory, which suggests that prices in markets tend to move in patterns of five waves, “and this bounce from the lows did NOT occur with five waves UP. That’s problematic,” he said.
“This will be a meaningful move off the lows, but we are in all likelihood going to at least retest, if not get under those lows,” he told MarketWatch in an interview.
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