Coronavirus positives in Bradenton and Hillsborough Counties (Miami, Sarasota: expenses, grocery stores)

[Trying941]

I love all the people here who like writing rules for others. So, figure it is my turn to play this game.

42.4% of adult Americans are obese. They are at the highest risk for hospitalization and death. If I am required to wear a mask to protect them, then they should be forced to go on a diet. 1500 calories a day, no cigarettes, no liquor and 30 minutes of forced walking a day until their BMI is 25.0 or less.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by Trying941

I love all the people here who like writing rules for others. So, figure it is my turn to play this game.

42.4% of adult Americans are obese. They are at the highest risk for hospitalization and death. If I am required to wear a mask to protect them, then they should be forced to go on a diet. 1500 calories a day, no cigarettes, no liquor and 30 minutes of forced walking a day until their BMI is 25.0 or less.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm

I am obese
I took my own initiative
I had Pfizer
I mask
I isolate much of time
I am taking recommended supplements

Delta is not making the same distinction between obese, old, and minorities like the original CoVid did
It has widen its killing pool

YOUNG adults under 40 were not targets of the original but they are of Delta
CHILDREN were not targets of the original CoVid but they are of Delta

PAY SOME ATTENTION TO FACTS
The virus mutated
It is going after new targets
Maybe you

[Trying941]

Originally Posted by loves2read

I am obese
I took my own initiative
I had Pfizer
I mask
I isolate much of time
I am taking recommended supplements

Delta is not making the same distinction between obese, old, and minorities like the original CoVid did
It has widen its killing pool

YOUNG adults under 40 were not targets of the original but they are of Delta
CHILDREN were not targets of the original CoVid but they are of Delta

PAY SOME ATTENTION TO FACTS
The virus mutated
It is going after new targets
Maybe you

I pay very close attention to the facts. Obesity remains the primary controlable risk factor.

“The one consistency that we are seeing is obesity in many of our younger patients who are critically ill are overweight," Burdette said. "If you are young and healthy and even if you get bad covid and it affects your lungs and you go on a ventilator, your chances of coming off a ventilator, unfortunately, are not good,” he said.
https://www.10tv.com/article/news/he...d-647b7aace881

Whether you had the shot or not, please lose weight. And don't say you cannot. I lost 20 pounds in the past five months. Why? I had the shot. I had Covid. And I do not want it again. (And yes, an N95 mask (well fitting 3M) - didn't really work.)

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by Trying941

I pay very close attention to the facts. Obesity remains the primary controlable risk factor.

“The one consistency that we are seeing is obesity in many of our younger patients who are critically ill are overweight," Burdette said. "If you are young and healthy and even if you get bad covid and it affects your lungs and you go on a ventilator, your chances of coming off a ventilator, unfortunately, are not good,” he said.
https://www.10tv.com/article/news/he...d-647b7aace881

Whether you had the shot or not, please lose weight. And don't say you cannot. I lost 20 pounds in the past five months. Why? I had the shot. I had Covid. And I do not want it again. (And yes, an N95 mask (well fitting 3M) - didn't really work.)

Being unvaxed is biggest risk factor

I bet you caught it when the mask was down from asymptomatic carriers
I worry about catching it from our 9 yr old grandson who goes to school with the unmasked kids in a highly contagious area and his parents if they are asymptomatic
They r both vaxed and mask at work but see people in small groups at home unmasked

I should lose weight
I am 72
Otherwise I am in very good shape
And you are correct about being overweight as a comorbidity factor

[Trying941]

Originally Posted by loves2read

Being unvaxed is biggest risk factor

I bet you caught it when the mask was down from asymptomatic carriers
I worry about catching it from our 9 yr old grandson who goes to school with the unmasked kids in a highly contagious area and his parents if they are asymptomatic
They r both vaxed and mask at work but see people in small groups at home unmasked

I should lose weight
I am 72
Otherwise I am in very good shape
And you are correct about being overweight as a comorbidity factor

And I was overstating to make a point. We should all do what we feel is best for ourselves. This is not like drunk driving where you need to not drink and drive cause others are helpless if you are selfish. Protect yourself.

[Variable]

Per your article from Mar 2021 (pre-Delta), of hospitalized covid patients, 79.1% were either overweight or obese. But 73.6% of US adults are either overweight or obese(as of 2018) and probably higher now.

If most people in the US are overweight+, then most hospitalized people will be overweight+ too. This doesn't mean normal weight people aren't hospitalized though. It just means the US has a lot of fat people in the US or slightly fat people.

People in the US have gotten so huge, that folks with BMI of 27 % (overweight ) seem "normal". But they are still overweight.

Originally Posted by Trying941

42.4% of adult Americans are obese. They are at the highest risk for hospitalization and death.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm

[Trying941]

Originally Posted by Variable

Per your article from Mar 2021 (pre-Delta), of hospitalized covid patients, 79.1% were either overweight or obese. But 73.6% of US adults are either overweight or obese(as of 2018) and probably higher now.

If most people in the US are overweight+, then most hospitalized people will be overweight+ too. This doesn't mean normal weight people aren't hospitalized though. It just means the US has a lot of fat people in the US or slightly fat people.

People in the US have gotten so huge, that folks with BMI of 27 % (overweight ) seem "normal". But they are still overweight.

With respect (and I mean that), you are making a common mistake in your analysis of numbers (79.1 v. 73.6) at saying overweight is just a 5% difference. There is a difference between statistical similarities and causation. We can agree that eating lobster in the summer does not cause you to be tan, but if you used this type of analysis, you would conclude that they do because people who eat lobster in July and August are more likely to be tan.

The issue is whether there is a significant positive correlation between BMI and serious illness. The answer is yes. The higher the BMI, the more likely a poor outcome. And the difference is huge. "At a BMI of more than 23 kg/m2, we found a linear increase in risk of severe COVID-19 leading to admission to hospital and death, and a linear increase in admission to an ICU across the whole BMI range, which is not attributable to excess risks of related diseases. The relative risk due to increasing BMI is particularly notable people younger than 40 years and of Black ethnicity." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...089-9/fulltext

The death rate for a BMI over 30 rises in a linear fashion: 50% higher at 35 and doubles at 40. See Fig.1.

[wondermint2]

Today's Update From Sarasota Memorial Hospital

271 Covid-19 patients hospitalized today - a decrease of 2 from yesterday's total of 273 (thirteen shy of Sunday's record total of 284).

58 Covid-19 patients in the ICU (a decrease of 1 since yesterday's total of 59 ).

2 people died from Covid-19 at SMH over the past day

the 7-day test positivity ratio is 18.2%

unvaccinated Covid-19 patients at SMH is currently 88%

source:
https://www.smh.com/Home/News-Events...ly-news-update

[wondermint2]

Florida Hospitalizations & Deaths

According to the Health & Human Services agency today there are 16,833 Florida Covid-19 hospitalizations - a decrease of 331 from yesterday's total of 17,164. (256 hospitals reported today).

There are 3743 Florida Covid-19 patients in the ICU - that's an increase of 61 from yesterday's total of 3682. (262 hospitals reporting).

source:
https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages...al-utilization

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According to the NY Times as of August 25 the 7-day avg. for deaths in Florida is 228 deaths per day. This is an increase of 87% over the past 14 days.

source:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...vid-cases.html

[wondermint2]

Ivermectin for Covid-19: abundance of hype, dearth of evidence

https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/25/...h-of-evidence/

Here’s a tip for navigating the constantly evolving data on treatments for Covid-19: Beware when someone describes a drug as a “miracle.”

The ongoing devastation wrought by the Covid-19 pandemic creates an understandable allure for a quick-fix or magic-bullet solutions. But it is painstaking scientific testing — not magical thinking — that reveals what works and how well. For example, clinical trials involving tens of thousands of patients across multiple continents were needed to demonstrate the enormous value of Covid-19 vaccines.

In the early months of the pandemic, hydroxychloroquine was touted by President Trump, even in the absence of adequate supporting data. Today it’s the antiparasitic drug ivermectin, whose developers were awarded a Nobel Prize in 2015 for the drug’s success in combatting river blindness and other tropical maladies. Veterinarians also use it to prevent heartworm and treat parasitic infections in some animals.

Several ivermectin champions, boosted by the internet, have been promoting the drug as a cure or preventive for Covid-19. But promoting is not the same as knowing. Knowing requires testing in well-designed clinical trials.

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https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

As Nature noted earlier this month:

"Throughout the pandemic, the anti-parasite drug ivermectin has attracted much attention, particularly in Latin America, as a potential way to treat COVID-19. But scientists say that recent, shocking revelations of widespread flaws in the data of a preprint study reporting that the medication greatly reduces COVID-19 deaths dampens ivermectin's promise -- and highlights the challenges of investigating drug efficacy during a pandemic...

"...The paper summarized the results of a clinical trial seeming to show that ivermectin can reduce COVID-19 death rates by more than 90% — among the largest studies of the drug's ability to treat COVID-19 to date. But on 14 July, after internet sleuths raised concerns about plagiarism and data manipulation, the preprint server Research Square withdrew the paper because of 'ethical concerns'."