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Old 01-06-2016, 09:51 AM
 
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Here is another cautionary tale about public financing for minor league baseball parks in our region:

Yard Goats' Opening Day In Doubt With Hartford, Developer At Impasse




Yard Goats' Opening Day In Doubt With Hartford, Developer At Impasse - Courant Community
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Old 01-06-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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Yard Goats' Opening Day In Doubt With Hartford, Developer At Impasse
"Yard Goats" is a bad nickname for a sports franchise.
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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PawSox owners recommit to Pawtucket in joint letter with Grebien | The Valley Breeze
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Old 02-03-2016, 05:48 AM
 
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Pawsox management took a real beating and saw attendance drop this past year. This is just a short term attempt to win fans back in the years remaining at the present McCoy Stadium. I however do not trust Pawsox management and do not think this letter has any long term implications.
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Old 02-03-2016, 05:56 AM
 
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^The letter failed to include an apology to fans. They tried to wrench $120M from our pockets, like thieves. They need to offer up a little more than just more game day promotions. Note to Lucchino and Steinberg: show us you're committed to McCoy, will think outside the box to make the facility competitive within the International League, and let your actions speak louder than empty words. Show some hustle on your way to first base.
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Old 03-27-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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This is a few weeks old at this point, but still worth watching.

Newsmakers 3/2/2016: PawSox Chairman Larry Lucchino | WPRI 12 Eyewitness News

Takeaways:

Lucchino doesn't commit to staying in Pawtucket. While he sees community outreach as a key element to rebuilding the market here, it appears their stay in Pawtucket is a bump in the road.

Lucchino doesn't seem to put much weight into the history of McCoy.

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Old 04-04-2017, 06:01 AM
 
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Pawsox now want a publicly owned (and financed) stadium located in Pawtucket:

PROPOSED PAWSOX STADIUM

Publicly owned park on the table

Lucchino says team, city, state leaders eye two downtown Pawtucket sites

By Kate Bramson Journal Staff Writer

Publicly owned park on the table - The Providence Journal, 2017-04-04
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Pawtucket, RI
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They have a publicly owned and financed stadium. But financing and ownership aside, could they have come up with worse potential locations? The Tidewater site isn't "downtown"; it's about the same distance from downtown as McCoy. And like McCoy, it's in a residential neighborhood, has poor access to major roads, and unless they plan on putting bars into Varieur Elementary School and the International Charter School, has nothing around it of entertainment value. At least McCoy has Galway Bay, the Right Spot diner, and Mei King all right outside the gate; the Pawtucket Patriot a couple blocks away; and a whole light industrial area and enormous shopping center nearby for redevelopment potential. And unless the City plans on taking a few blocks of houses and/or filling in the river, the Tidewater site is way too small.

The Apex site? Nothing says downtown redevelopment like a huge field that sits unused two thirds of the year, with an equally huge and empty parking structure across the street. No thank you.

As much as I'd prefer them to stay at McCoy, the Microfibres/Morley Field site that was mentioned in the past actually makes sense. It's on the R line, has great highway access, has existing stuff around (Bucket Brewery, 10 Rocks, Hope Artiste Village), and has room for redevelopment (Job Lot plaza, metal recycling yards). I wonder why that site is off the table.
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:36 AM
 
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They have a publicly owned and financed stadium. But financing and ownership aside, could they have come up with worse potential locations? The Tidewater site isn't "downtown"; it's about the same distance from downtown as McCoy. And like McCoy, it's in a residential neighborhood, has poor access to major roads, and unless they plan on putting bars into Varieur Elementary School and the International Charter School, has nothing around it of entertainment value. At least McCoy has Galway Bay, the Right Spot diner, and Mei King all right outside the gate; the Pawtucket Patriot a couple blocks away; and a whole light industrial area and enormous shopping center nearby for redevelopment potential. And unless the City plans on taking a few blocks of houses and/or filling in the river, the Tidewater site is way too small.

The Apex site? Nothing says downtown redevelopment like a huge field that sits unused two thirds of the year, with an equally huge and empty parking structure across the street. No thank you.
I agree.

This is another bad deal for the public.

They have made their offer slightly more palatable by keeping the team in Pawtucket and making the stadium publicly owned. But it still is not good enough.

They have not said how much they want the taxpayers to pay. That's always a bad sign.

Want to get taxpayer buy-in, Larry? Since this is all about selling hotdogs and overpriced beer, you need to take a hit on admissions. There is palpable fear amongst families that admissions prices will get jacked for that shiny new taxpayer financed stadium. If Rhode Islanders own the stadium, then give each Rhode Islander a quota of tickets on a first-come, first-served basis. That will pack them in, and you'll get them on the concessions anyway. Bake it into the deal. Go ahead and charge for tickets to out-of-state residents; they won't be the ones who fund and build the stadium.

And if this deal does go through, the state should also require a $$$ set-aside from each concession sale and out-of-state ticket sale, to put into escrow in case the team decides to walk before the useful life of the stadium is up, much like the team threatened to do at McCoy.
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:59 AM
 
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PROPOSED PAWSOX STADIUM

Foes: No public funds for park

By Kate Bramson Journal Staff Writer


Foes: No public funds for park - The Providence Journal, 2017-04-05
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