Atheism As A REJECTION OF--Not Disbelief In--An Evil God (quote, believe, exist)
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RE: "The fear of God" For the unbeliever, the fear of God is the fear of the judgment of God and eternal death, which is eternal separation from God. For the believer, the fear of God is something much different. The believer’s fear is reverence of God.
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Don't you see the dichotomy in the statement "For the unbeliever, the fear of God?" If a person is an unbeliever, there is nothing to fear. Period.
Many atheists are materialist, and therefore reject any supernatural or paranormal phenomena as being "woo."
I respect thrillobyte for not limiting his worldview to materialism.
Are there any others here, who identify as atheist, but who also hold any superstitious or supernatural beliefs?
I'm not looking to 'debate'. I'm just very interested in the topic.
They had a discussion about that topic in the A&A forum a few years ago. Some of them do believe in ghosts and spirits. (I wish I could find that thread. Maybe somebody else will remember the title so we can give you a link to it.)
The most outspoken atheist I have even known told his children that he would come back and haunt them for the rest of their lives if they hold a religious service for him when he dies. I mentioned it in that thread and some people were incredulous that an atheist would believe that he could come back and haunt someone.
They had a discussion about that topic in the A&A forum a few years ago. Some of them do believe in ghosts and spirits. (I wish I could find that thread. Maybe somebody else will remember the title so we can give you a link to it.)
The most outspoken atheist I have even known told his children that he would come back and haunt them for the rest of their lives if they hold a religious service for him when he dies. I mentioned it in that thread and some people were incredulous that an atheist would believe that he could come back and haunt someone.
Ah, okay. You believe God must be able to intervene in our physical lives or He is NOT God. A God who is Spirit and only intervenes spiritually is useless and pointless, right. We do not inhabit the same Reality, thrill. Sorry. I don't decide what God MUST do or be. I accept God as I found Him.
I think you miss my point again,Mystic. God IS able. He chooses of His own will not to. And I imagine you choose not to call Him out on His evil inaction is because you're not brave or bold enough to stand in front of the Almighty and call Him a jerk to His face, because maybe you're afraid of retribution or something? You see, I'm not afraid to call God a jerk because I call them as I see them. And I know that He's not going to do anything to me if I do. And I don't buy this nonsensical argument Christians peddle, "Well, He's giving you a chance while you're alive but after you die that's when He'll throw the book at you." See? That's just another pass Christians give to their pagan god who's also a big fat do-nothing. The Christian pagan god is always threatening but never does anything because he doesn't exist. The real God does nothing as well, but the BIG difference is He never threatens. And I would agree with your rhetorical question, "A God who is Spirit and only intervenes spiritually IS useless and pointless. Epicurus certainly got that one right.
nuances are slippery, lets clear up the confusion.
Its a figure of speech, not literal.
A man who fears god fears nothing.
A man who has no fear of God is afraid of the world.
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