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Christians do not believe in One G-d, they believe in multiple gods...Obviously you did not read the post nor analyze it...When one reads the OT one sees no mysteries ,all of a sudden one has the NT and many mysteries...But, that is the point, you quoted your priest and not the bible...
I did read your post. I've read many others like it in the past. You are making a case for why Jews do not believe in Christ/Holy Spirit/The Trinity, and you did it admirably.
Yes, I quoted my priest and not the bible, because I do not belong to a religious tradition that teaches that the written word is the infallible, inerrant Word of God. We discuss and argue and question what was written and people come up with their ideas on what something they can't really understand might mean. Sort of like Jews. Think about taking "you shall not boil a kid in its mother's milk" and turning that into an edict against cheeseburgers. But there are certain truths that all Christians believe, and one of them is that we believe in ONE GOD. It's rather disingenuous of you to try to tell a Christian that she does not believe in One God, but in multiple gods. We don't believe in multiple gods. Not any of us, whether we are bible literalists or otherwise.
ONE God. Consider yourself informed on that point.
I did read your post. I've read many others like it in the past. You are making a case for why Jews do not believe in Christ/Holy Spirit/The Trinity, and you did it admirably.
Yes, I quoted my priest and not the bible, because I do not belong to a religious tradition that teaches that the written word is the infallible, inerrant Word of God. We discuss and argue and question what was written and people come up with their ideas on what something they can't really understand might mean. Sort of like Jews. Think about taking "you shall not boil a kid in its mother's milk" and turning that into an edict against cheeseburgers. But there are certain truths that all Christians believe, and one of them is that we believe in ONE GOD. It's rather disingenuous of you to try to tell a Christian that she does not believe in One God, but in multiple gods. We don't believe in multiple gods. Not any of us, whether we are bible literalists or otherwise.
ONE God. Consider yourself informed on that point.
I know all about Christianity and their beliefs...The trinity is a pagan concept...And to see truth, one must have their eyes open and also their mind...The OP is pointing out, reasoning from the Hebrew TaNaKh, what the problems are with the concept of a triune god...Does it make any sense at all that G-d has been mono all this time and then all of a sudden in 325 CE he becomes triune?...Like other religions of triune gods that existed before Christianity?...
Pointing out that the trinity concept had not yet fully taken root when the earliest bibles were written.
Yep...I looked at those links...It doesn't seem to have come about until about 325 CE...But, you cannot convince people of this who are not really searching for truth...If one earnestly researches and comes to a conclusion that is contrary to what one currently believes and is supported with documentation, then, if one really desires to know the truth, then one must change one mind or one is not seriously interested in the truth...
But, you cannot convince people of this who are not really searching for truth...if one really desires to know the truth, then one must change one mind or one is not seriously interested in the truth...
In Judaism there is room for other religions and other religious people to understand and worship G-d differently. Jews don't insist on "the truth" for other people, nor do Jews preach, proselytize, or beat people about the head with quotes from scripture. Judaism is clear on how Jews view and interact with G-d. But we don't tell anyone else what the "truth is" for them. Other religions may do that. But Judaism does NOT do that.
It is not part of Judaism to convince others of anything.
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Yep...I looked at those links...It doesn't seem to have come about until about 325 CE...But, you cannot convince people of this who are not really searching for truth...If one earnestly researches and comes to a conclusion that is contrary to what one currently believes and is supported with documentation, then, if one really desires to know the truth, then one must change one mind or one is not seriously interested in the truth...
The development of the Trinity took at least 500 years to reach it's current concept.
Even today there are Non-Trinitarian Christians and among the Trinitarians there are at least 3 different Schools of thought Eastern Orthodox, Protestant and Catholic. American Fundamentalist seems to be developing into a 4th school of thought
Here are some links that give good timelines of the Trinitatian development. The first one is excellent but quite lengthy and complex. but if you scroll down to Tertullian you can get a quick grasp
In Judaism there is room for other religions and other religious people to understand and worship G-d differently. Jews don't insist on "the truth" for other people, nor do Jews preach, proselytize, or beat people about the head with quotes from scripture. Judaism is clear on how Jews view and interact with G-d. But we don't tell anyone else what the "truth is" for them. Other religions may do that. But Judaism does NOT do that.
It is not part of Judaism to convince others of anything.
The development of the Trinity took at least 500 years to reach it's current concept.
Even today there are Non-Trinitarian Christians and among the Trinitarians there are at least 3 different Schools of thought Eastern Orthodox, Protestant and Catholic. American Fundamentalist seems to be developing into a 4th school of thought
Here are some links that give good timelines of the Trinitatian development. The first one is excellent but quite lengthy and complex. but if you scroll down to Tertullian you can get a quick grasp
Well you do a lousy job of convincing, so argue all you want as you convince me of my faith even more as I was already convinced in the first place. So Too Knock on Tknach or whatever it is
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