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Old 04-03-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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Why Is Conversion to Judaism So Hard? - Questions & Answers

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So there’s the difference: In a religion, you belong because you believe. In a brit (in this case, Judaism), you believe because you belong.

Believing is part of the brit. So are all the other mitzvot—obligations—of the covenant. It doesn’t matter whether you believe in that covenant or those obligations, or believe that G‑d obligated you, or believe in G‑d at all. You can’t fight with history. You are part of this people by virtue of having been born into it, and that’s who this people are and what this people do. A deal is a deal.
In general, Jews do not try to convert non-Jews to Judaism. In fact, according to halakhah (Jewish Law), rabbis are supposed to make three vigorous attempts to dissuade a person who wants to convert to Judaism. Jews have a lot of responsibilities that non-Jews do not have.

 
Old 04-03-2015, 10:37 AM
 
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Why would we?

Our religion teaches that a Jew is bound to live by the Torah, to fulfill all of the 613 commandments that pertain to him or her. A non-Jew, on the other hand, is only required to follow seven general laws in order to be considered righteous.

Being Jewish is both a religious and an ethnic identifier, and no one is required to adopt either in order to receive some reward after they die. Those of us who do choose to convert to Judaism do so because we find a people, a religion, and a way of living that we identify with and want to become part of. That's not something you can pitch on the street corner and expect to find positive results; tell a guy he has to be circumcised and give up pork and cheeseburgers, and he's suddenly got somewhere else to be.

It takes a lot of work to become Jewish; you have to study, worship, and (usually) spend a least a year living as Jew before a rabbi will present you to a beit din. It's a great commitment, and we take it very seriously. Once you are Jewish, you're always Jewish.
It certainly was not a blessing? For losing the Temple, Nationhood and dispersion? That had them scattered into the worlds nations? A remnant has since been returning to a restored nation in a day. Awaiting final prophecies and sign to rebuild their Temple.

Some not Blood Mound on Passover's and Sukkot's last few years? Including this years as signs?

Blood-Red Moons ⬅lot of detail in this sight.

What do four consecutive blood moons on the Jewish holidays of Passover and Sukkot mean for the Jews and the world at large

The Spanish Inquisition — 1492
* Passover, April 2, 1493
* Sukkoth, Sept. 25, 1493
* Passover, March 22, 1494
* Sukkoth, Sept. 15, 1494
The War of Independence — 1948
* Passover, April 13, 1949
* Sukkoth, Oct. 7, 1949
* Passover, April 2, 1950
* Sukkoth, Sept. 26, 1950
The Six-Day War — 1967
* First Day of Passover, April 24, 1967
* First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 18, 1967
* First Day of Passover. April 13, 1968
* First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 6, 1968
What will occur in the 2013–2015 time period?
* First Day of Passover, April 15, 2014
* First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 8, 2014
* First Day of Passover, April 4, 2015
* First Day of Sukkoth, Sept. 28, 2015
Fall Feasts in 2015
* Rosh Hashanah (The Feast of Trumpets), Sept. 14
* Yom Kippur (The Day of Atonement), Sept. 23
* Sukkoth (The Feast of Tabernacles), Sept. 28

JUST THOUGHT I'D ADD THIS REASONING? INTERESTING? IS IT MERE COINCIDENCES?
 
Old 04-03-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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Oy vey.
 
Old 04-03-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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Why would we?

Our religion teaches that a Jew is bound to live by the Torah, to fulfill all of the 613 commandments that pertain to him or her. A non-Jew, on the other hand, is only required to follow seven general laws in order to be considered righteous.

Being Jewish is both a religious and an ethnic identifier, and no one is required to adopt either in order to receive some reward after they die. Those of us who do choose to convert to Judaism do so because we find a people, a religion, and a way of living that we identify with and want to become part of. That's not something you can pitch on the street corner and expect to find positive results; tell a guy he has to be circumcised and give up pork and cheeseburgers, and he's suddenly got somewhere else to be.

It takes a lot of work to become Jewish; you have to study, worship, and (usually) spend a least a year living as Jew before a rabbi will present you to a beit din. It's a great commitment, and we take it very seriously. Once you are Jewish, you're always Jewish.
Yes, I remember now. When I was discussing about conversion with him, he said something like one year. And he was very inviting.
 
Old 04-03-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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Yes, I remember now. When I was discussing about conversion with him, he said something like one year. And he was very inviting.
Anything else you suddenly recall he said you'd have to do?
 
Old 04-03-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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All my life Christians in my family and others have tried to recruit me to Christianity. Begging me to go to church, passing out flyers, stopping me in the street, ringing my doorbell etc...but Jewish people have never done this. And theres a quite large jewish population where I grew up and it's surrounding areas(not as large as Christians but significant). I knew several jewish people in college and they never talked about their religion, meanwhile Christians were always trying to interject religion into conversation. Why is this?
Simply put, Judaism doesn't have a central figure who gathered disciples and told them to 'spread the word'. Christianity is more about a movement to a destination than a destination itself.
 
Old 04-03-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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Why would we?

Our religion teaches that a Jew is bound to live by the Torah, to fulfill all of the 613 commandments that pertain to him or her. A non-Jew, on the other hand, is only required to follow seven general laws in order to be considered righteous.

Being Jewish is both a religious and an ethnic identifier, and no one is required to adopt either in order to receive some reward after they die. Those of us who do choose to convert to Judaism do so because we find a people, a religion, and a way of living that we identify with and want to become part of. That's not something you can pitch on the street corner and expect to find positive results; tell a guy he has to be circumcised and give up pork and cheeseburgers, and he's suddenly got somewhere else to be.

It takes a lot of work to become Jewish; you have to study, worship, and (usually) spend a least a year living as Jew before a rabbi will present you to a beit din. It's a great commitment, and we take it very seriously. Once you are Jewish, you're always Jewish.
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Anything else you suddenly recall he said you'd have to do?
No. I just attempted a few times. He didn't talk about the laws at all, as the Christian sermons did. It were the people who could speak Hebrew reading the prayer book and ?praising book. I asked him a few questions concerning some laws, and he always said I had to show him where they were in the Bible. But of course not that I brought the Bible with me to a Jewish worship. And the only "Bible" there, would be that sacred scroll in a shrine.... I don't think it is a good idea to fetch it out. Besides that, the rabbi emailed me everyday of the Jerusalem news vice versa.

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Old 04-03-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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Christianity is about spreading the gospel, Judaism is not. One of the core tenets of it is to literally go out and tell people the good news. The problem is that modern Christians also don't seem to understand that you aren't supposed to badger people that show no interest in their faith.
Best answer.
 
Old 04-03-2015, 12:38 PM
 
Location: North America
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Yes, I remember now. When I was discussing about conversion with him, he said something like one year. And he was very inviting.
When did you wake up from your dream?
 
Old 04-03-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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Best answer.
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