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Old 03-29-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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This story is over 3 years old and here's the original thread on the topic.https://www.city-data.com/forum/relat...tion-date.html
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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You seem fixated on insisting that all marriages are bad or end badly with all these threads you are creating or commenting on

Why are you ruminating on the subject, especially since you yourself claim you'll "never" get married?
I think some folk are dismayed because it (a good, solid, loving marriage) is out of reach. Some don't care and others do, so they lash out.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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I think some folk are dismayed because it (a good, solid, loving marriage) is out of reach. Some don't care and others do, so they lash out.
But when the one claiming he never plans to marry is the one continuing to bring the subject up I just don't get it.

If I never planned to become a doctor I certainly wouldn't go around discussing all the many reasons why I won't ever become a doctor.

If I never planned to drive a race car I certainly wouldn't care if others did, but again, I wouldn't waste a second of my time justifying why I wouldn't drive a race car.

And frankly, it's just a bit annoying when those who haven't even ever gotten married, and technically have NO CLUE what it takes to have a successful marriage, keep coming on all these threads trying to tell the rest of the world why marriage is so bad.

The truth is, good marriages are good for our society, our cultures and our our world in general.

But like I said on yesterday's thread, marriage is not for everyone.

Some people really do lack the brain cells, emotional maturity, character and/or heart to achieve a successful marriage. Those that DO should be celebrated, not maligned.
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Reno, NV
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I believe Mexico City has the option for an expiration date on a marriage, unless renewed. The idea makes sense to me, and simplifies the process of ending a marriage if that's what the parties desire, or at least lets them try out the idea. I agree with the idea that marriage is a social convention, which arose mainly to preserve wealth, rather than what some seem to think of as a lifelong commitment - which seems both contrary to human nature and a bad idea in general. Of course, if a lifelong relationship actually works for you, then great for you!
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:55 PM
 
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But when the one claiming he never plans to marry is the one continuing to bring the subject up I just don't get it.

If I never planned to become a doctor I certainly wouldn't go around discussing all the many reasons why I won't ever become a doctor.

If I never planned to drive a race car I certainly wouldn't care if others did, but again, I wouldn't waste a second of my time justifying why I wouldn't drive a race car.

And frankly, it's just a bit annoying when those who haven't even ever gotten married, and technically have NO CLUE what it takes to have a successful marriage, keep coming on all these threads trying to tell the rest of the world why marriage is so bad.

The truth is, good marriages are good for our society, our cultures and our our world in general.

But like I said on yesterday's thread, marriage is not for everyone.

Some people really do lack the brain cells, emotional maturity, character and/or heart to achieve a successful marriage. Those that DO should be celebrated, not maligned.
I think some talk about it and dog it so much because on some level it's something they want or wanted, couldn't have, so now they harp. People talk about things that matter to them. A good example, and analogy, is these two guys I used to argue with in the education and employment forums. They would go on and on about how nobody should major in a science and that Americans never actually become scientists, but underpaid perma-temps. All the jobs are filled by H1B-visas for all industries. My experience, OTOH, has been quite different. I work with brilliant, well paid scientists all day, everyday. I shared my path, but they didn't want to hear it. Their failures were to be applied to all scientists in all industries.

I see that approach with just about any topic for a handful of people. But, most folk don't seem to do it.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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Probably. Better than going through a nasty divorce. How about a better solution? Get the government out of the marriage business and there will be no need for marriage licenses or certificates.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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I think some talk about it and dog it so much because on some level it's something they want or wanted, couldn't have, so now they harp. People talk about things that matter to them. A good example, and analogy, is these two guys I used to argue with in the education and employment forums. They would go on and on about how nobody should major in a science and that Americans never actually become scientists, but underpaid perma-temps. All the jobs are filled by H1B-visas for all industries. My experience, OTOH, has been quite different. I work with brilliant, well paid scientists all day, everyday. I shared my path, but they didn't want to hear it. Their failures were to be applied to all scientists in all industries.

I see that approach with just about any topic for a handful of people. But, most folk don't seem to do it.
Well sorry but not everyone has near perfect lives and we reserve the right to about it.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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Probably. Better than going through a nasty divorce. How about a better solution? Get the government out of the marriage business and there will be no need for marriage licenses or certificates.
People have the option to marry in church without obtaining a marriage license. That pretty much covers what you're talking about.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:15 PM
 
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Well sorry but not everyone has near perfect lives and we reserve the right to about it.
I'm not saying you guys shouldn't complain. I'm just sharing why I think you do complain. What do you think? Does it sound familiar?
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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I'm not saying you guys shouldn't complain. I'm just sharing why I think you do complain. What do you think? Does it sound familiar?
I could just feel the judgemental tone in your post. Some of us try to do better in our lives but for some reason just can't get a break and watching everyone else around us catch em. No frustration sets in and we will complain.
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