what rights do straight people have that gays do not? (party, Seattle)
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you know this wouldn't be an issue if the government had not been involved in the first place. government does not grant rights, it protects them. this is a man made issue.
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Wapasha, that's way too complex of a definition, although it may be the most accurate.
It just seems that no one is quite sure if marriage should be considered a right. The California Supreme Court said that it is, but I'm sure other state Supreme Courts would say it is not.
Wapasha, that's way too complex of a definition, although it may be the most accurate.
It just seems that no one is quite sure if marriage should be considered a right. The California Supreme Court said that it is, but I'm sure other state Supreme Courts would say it is not.
There may be something in the California state Constitution making it one. That could be the difference.
you know this wouldn't be an issue if the government had not been involved in the first place. government does not grant rights, it protects. this is a man made issue.
I agree with you. My guess is that government got involved in the marriage business to generate revenue and to control its citizens, more than anything else. It's a shame we all have to fight about this. Anyone should be able to enter into a legal contract with anyone else.
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that is exactly why they got involved. any chance they see to create sides and make a buck, they stick their noses in it.
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I agree with you. My guess is that government got involved in the marriage business to generate revenue and to control its citizens, more than anything else. It's a shame we all have to fight about this. Anyone should be able to enter into a legal contract with anyone else.
There may be something in the California state Constitution making it one. That could be the difference.
Yes, that could be true, which is why the argument over whether or not marriage is a right could vary from state to state. I've been trying to get away from calling marriage a "right" at all because I think it's too controversial to call it that.
As you and I discussed, the argument about marriage/civil unions should be secondary to arguments about who should be allowed to adopt and raise kids.
If marriage is a right, then why is it licensed? From my understanding, licensed activities are privileges, not rights.
Well than, why are certain groups not able to access the same privileges as others? It is tomato/tomAto argument. Call it what you want really, it doesn't make an argument more valid over the other because of wording.
Then again, "gay" is not a race so it really is 2 different things now isn't it?
Hmm lets see, a group who are who they are due to no choice of their own who have been murdered, tortured, and denied rights for hundreds of years. Nope, the situations seem awfully similar to me. Also and if the race thing is so important in your eyes, you "genius" you, then you wouldn't have any problem if religion was no longer a protected class hmmm? I mean christians do CHOOSE to be christian. If they are discriminated against its their choice right?
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