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Why does it seam that Global Warming is a political thing? Republicans don't believe in it while democrats do? Whats up with that?
It's quite simple. Dems love big powerful government. AGW is not about climate change. It's about redistribution of wealth and expansion of government power.
Why does it seam that Global Warming is a political thing? Republicans don't believe in it while democrats do? Whats up with that?
It is not a politcal issue but the rghties made it one. Righties often show a distaste for science, I think it is too complicated for their small minds to grasp, personal opinion. Climate change (warming in this case) is a FACT, no matter what the loons from the farside want to claim. The only real/valid argument is whether or not mankind has played a part and if so how much. Thing is we are not the owns of this planet we are the caretakers, we should take as much effort as is needed to keep the planet healthy and reverse any damage we have already caused, it is in own on best interests and is simply common sense. Why anyone would be against that is beyond me and anyone that feels they hae a right to destroy the planet in the name of greed is an enemy every living creature on this planet.
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It's quite simple. Dems love big powerful government. AGW is not about climate change. It's about redistribution of wealth and expansion of government power.
The debate between Dems. and Reps. is not whether global warming is happening, both sides agree that it is, the debate is over the cause of global warming. Dems. believe it is due to the greenhouse effect, Reps. believe it is due to the natural changing of earths climate.
Both are based on theory, so no way to prove either. It can be said that the earths climate changes, that is a fact, but the speed at which this happens is not fact. This is convenient for the non-believers of the greenhouse effect - no hard critical thinking is required to either understand the theory, and no hard critical thinking needs to be done to investigate ways of reversing the greenhouse effect.
1. Not true. There is no evidence that the planet is warming in the first place.
2. In the second place, there is no evidence that CO2 levels have anything to do with #1.
3. In the third place, there is no evidence that there is anything that man could do about the situation if #1 and #2 were proven to be true.
4. Any "remedies" for issues #1-3 are unproven and potentially hazardous to the environment.
Take home message- get your facts straight and be very sure of those "facts" before taking any action. Currently, this is a situation of "don't just do something, stand there".
Because EVERYTHING in America must be political. It's a law, or at least it seems to be sometimes.
In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics’. All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred, and schizophrenia.
Republicans generally stick to facts and knowledge. Many liberal democrats like to cling onto hot topics like abortion, veganism, global warming, homosexualism, etc in a meaningless attempt to bring some sort of comfort and meaning to their lives. Picking up such hobbies as forcing people to buy stupid environmentally healthy light bulbs is exactly what the average liberal needs to fulfill some hidden sexual desire.
This liberal knows that you're wrong. And that's a fact.
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Only when it's bunk science. Liberals hate logic and common sense, preferring to appeal to emotions such as guilt or fear...(oh, don't kill the baby seals!)
I'm afraid you too are wrong. Whenever I read such ignorant blanket generalizations about any ideology, I know I'm dealing with an extremist.
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Democrats believe in anything that involves guilt.
Guilt tax, breathing tax, energy tax, anything that would require a human to exist or live in a higher living standard is BAD.
Which why they hate the "rich" which many of them are rich yet they have guilt about that.
Doesn't stop Al Gore from jeting all over the world.
So they want to over tax the rich to make them feel good about something. Which is why Obama is pushing a GLobal Poverty Act (Tax) to "stamp out" poverty to the rest of the world via your tax dollars. More Socialism by the Democrats.
Democrats have been looking for a new Big government socialism program for a while and they have latched onto the new religion of being GREEN.
It's not bad enough they created welfare and SS. No they wouldn't stop there. Being Green like all religions, is based on faith and not science and how it makes you feel. Those who wish to practice the religion of being green and global warming nuts are happy to pay a large TAX and think everyone should. I on the other hand live in world were it always has had different weather changes and polar shifts and sun flares and Global Warming is Hoax and myth. Even the guy who FOUNDED the WEATHER CHANNEL SAYS GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH@!!@!!!!! I will not be told to pay a TAX and live the green lifestyle by the force of Government.
Republicans happen to believe more in God then being Green that is unless your name is John McCain. Difference is to believe in GOD the government doesnt make you pay a tax for it.
The idea that being Green is just a scheme to raise your taxes implies that all the evidence about human destruction of the environment is to be ignored, and that saving a few dollars is more real and important, dollars that have no value unless you have FAITH in them. I'd say your view is the religion. Going green to both feel good and to provide a livable planet for our future generations is not a religion, it's the logical choice. Its implementation, in its infancy right now, will encounter some inconsistencies and inefficiencies until we truly reconnect with the natural world.
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Some of us are working to reestablish New Deal Socialism in America and remove our country from the controls of a few corporations and the domination of the super wealthy. We are trying very hard to restore a true populist democracy to the United States.
Controlling the Climate change debate is just another tool used by the usurpers to protect the means they have used to obtain their stolen gains.
We continue to impact the globe on so many levels that the imbalances are just now beginning to be analyzed and discovered. It is not possible for something so complex to be understood in a decade or two. I agree that we need to remove the control that has already been imposed and we need to discern the truth QUICKLY. Our penchant for misinforming each other on practically every issue arises from the fact that we can't possibly know everything. We go on faith and unfortunately that faith is abused by all sides. We need a mechanism to determine truth from fiction. It will probably be when we trust our guts, our intuition, and escape the overwhelming influences around us. It will require us to choose a truly personal spiritual path that has nothing to do with current religions.
This thread got hijacked by the global warming debate. Few actually responded to the OP, but I'll try here. The GW argument only appears to be a D/R divide because, as I alluded to above, we are so overwhelmed by so many issues, we can't stop and grasp all the possible gradations. It's easier to form black and white and be done with it. Both the D and the R encourage this kind of thinking because it helps define them as separate from each other. As I've posted before on other threads, they collude with each other to create an illusion of choice but they are really the same. Issues are forced into our consciousness to manifest a division where none needs to exist. We end up not solving the problem because we really don't know what the problem is.
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