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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.72%
No 256 50.59%
Unsure 49 9.68%
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Old 09-24-2022, 12:43 PM
 
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What is Russia going to do launch all their nuclear missiles and end life on planet earth? Commit suicide?? MAD is still intact.
It won’t be Russia that does it. That would be dependent on the response from US-NATO, for that to happen. And Russia has a lot more firepower that hasn’t been used, which include very formidable non-nuclear weapons.

Again, the Russians have not engaged in full scale warfare up until now, and have barely used air combat forces.

Compare Russia’s infrequent use of aircraft so far, to the US invasion of Iraq, as an example. The US darkened the skies with combat aircraft for weeks, performing sorties by the thousands, and eliminating air defenses, infrastructure, power and communications. Russia has not done that in Ukraine, and I have already explained why. But, if they decide to, Ukraine has no answer, militarily. At the outset of this “war”, a full scale invasion would have seen Russia slice through Ukraine’s defenses like a hot knife through butter. Russia’s tactics were limited to surgical strikes, and ground force combat. They have way more than that in an all out invasion.

Do you think Russia has no Air Force, or something? They have a variety of sophisticated combat aircraft that have been used sparingly, if at all, so far.

What needs to happen, and hasn’t yet, is an emergency meeting to bring the parties to the table and stop this madness now, before it gets totally out of control.

If Russia goes in full bore, no holds barred, Ukraine is going to be reduced to a smoldering hole in the ground, and the only way the US-NATO could stop it, would require the unthinkable response.

The only peaceful solution here is for the US puppet regime in Ukraine to agree to a cease fire, and recognize the Donbas region’s full autonomy, which they don’t appear to be amenable to. But, nothing short of that will be acceptable, and Russia has made that clear. That region which includes a significant population of ethnic Russians have been under attack by the Ukraine military for 8 years. Civilians. 60,000 have been killed by Ukraine’s military over the past 8 years. 60,000. !!!

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Old 09-24-2022, 12:44 PM
 
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It won’t be Russia that does it. That would be dependent on the response from US-NATO, for that to happen. And Russia has a lot more firepower that hasn’t been used, which include very formidable non-nuclear weapons.

Again, the Russians have not engaged in full scale warfare up until now, and have barely used air combat forces.

Compare Russia’s infrequent use of aircraft so far, to the US invasion of Iraq, as an example. The US darkened the skies with combat aircraft for weeks, performing sorties by the thousands, and eliminating air defenses, infrastructure, power and communications. Russia has not done that in Ukraine, and I have already explained why. But, if they decide to, Ukraine has no answer, militarily. At the outset of this “war”, a full scale invasion would have seen Russia slice through Ukraine’s defenses like a hot knife through butter. Russia’s tactics were limited to surgical strikes, and ground force combat. They have way more than that in an all out invasion.

Do you think Russia has no Air Force, or something? They have a variety of sophisticated combat aircraft that have been used sparingly, if at all, so far.

What needs to happen, and hasn’t yet, is an emergency meeting to bring the parties to the table and stop this madness now, before it gets totally out of control.

If Russia goes in full bore, no holds barred, Ukraine is going to be reduced to a smoldering hole in the ground, and the only way the US-NATO could stop it, would require the unthinkable response.
Comedy gold.
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Old 09-24-2022, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I don't believe weapons are in short supply. The Ukrainians have been capturing massive stockpiles of Russian weapons. Disgruntled drunks capable of driving military trucks is exactly what Russia needs. As long as they don't get too drunk to drive the trucks, the supplies will get to the front lines. Which will be unfortunate for the Ukrainians.
Search "Are Russian weapons in short supply". Rarely does one see such unanimity across a wide swath of media. Some of these sources I like ok, some I don't. Average it all together and the message is "Russia is running out of weaponry". I'm sorry that I didn't go to bitchute but I'm not a b*tch.

https://eurasiantimes.com/out-of-mis...sonic-weapons/
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-migh...report-1738702
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/...pply-problems/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...war-in-ukraine
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/05/u...artillery.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...apons-ukraine/
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/05/...ed-to-failure/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62804825
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Old 09-24-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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It won’t be Russia that does it. That would be dependent on the response from US-NATO, for that to happen. And Russia has a lot more firepower that hasn’t been used, which include very formidable non-nuclear weapons.

Again, the Russians have not engaged in full scale warfare up until now, and have barely used air combat forces.

Compare Russia’s infrequent use of aircraft so far, to the US invasion of Iraq, as an example. The US darkened the skies with combat aircraft for weeks, performing sorties by the thousands, and eliminating air defenses, infrastructure, power and communications. Russia has not done that in Ukraine, and I have already explained why. But, if they decide to, Ukraine has no answer, militarily. At the outset of this “war”, a full scale invasion would have seen Russia slice through Ukraine’s defenses like a hot knife through butter. Russia’s tactics were limited to surgical strikes, and ground force combat. They have way more than that in an all out invasion.

Do you think Russia has no Air Force, or something? They have a variety of sophisticated combat aircraft that have been used sparingly, if at all, so far.

What needs to happen, and hasn’t yet, is an emergency meeting to bring the parties to the table and stop this madness now, before it gets totally out of control.

If Russia goes in full bore, no holds barred, Ukraine is going to be reduced to a smoldering hole in the ground, and the only way the US-NATO could stop it, would require the unthinkable response.
We just need to nuke his country out or gas it.
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Old 09-24-2022, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Comedy gold.
I'm thinking this is all misdirection. Somewhere in Russia there's a little town weirdly named Texas. Tyeksis maybe. GuyNTyeksis.
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Old 09-24-2022, 01:01 PM
 
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Nah, NATO has been a coward from the beginning. They are not gonna do anything. If they had any balls at all, they would have staged troops in Ukraine when Russia was amassing their troops at the border. If they didn't do that, then they could have at least sent heavy weapons to Ukraine before the invasion started.

The invasion was inevitable. They had the intelligence. They chose to appease Putin instead.

First, "we won't send troops to Ukraine. Please Mr. Putin, just leave Ukraine alone won't you please.".

Then, "we only send Ukraine defensive weapons. Please Mr. Putin, don't be mad."

Now, "we will send Ukraine some weapons, but Ukraine can not strike Russia with these weapons."

In what universe do we live in when one country can attack the neighboring country but the neighboring can not attack back?

The result of all these appeasements is that the bully Putin is emboldened to commit more atrocities because he knows he can get away with it.
+1

Great post, I completely agree with you!
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Old 09-24-2022, 01:04 PM
 
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Guess what? Putin is claiming NATO is the aggressor and Russia is defending against NATO. And He has called for a mobilization.

One can argue that if NATO had acted more aggressively, Putin would have backed off. That's how bullies operate. They prey on the weak and run when confronted by a stronger opponent.
Agree again.
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Old 09-24-2022, 01:07 PM
 
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This is no longer the situation, as Russia has now declared their status as being at war with NATO-US, removing the veil of subterfuge. This is THE TURNING POINT.
So, when are they going to attack a single NATO country? Kinda been waiting but it isn't happening.

Or is it a war of words? Seems that way.
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Old 09-24-2022, 01:08 PM
 
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I'm thinking this is all misdirection. Somewhere in Russia there's a little town weirdly named Texas. Tyeksis maybe. GuyNTyeksis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rke1NpsBI0s


I know this conflicts with the stories fed you by the propaganda machine. And it’s ok if you want to remain on fantasy island. Your belief of what is happening has no bearing on the reality of what is actually happening.

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Old 09-24-2022, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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It won’t be Russia that does it. That would be dependent on the response from US-NATO, for that to happen. And Russia has a lot more firepower that hasn’t been used, which include very formidable non-nuclear weapons.

Again, the Russians have not engaged in full scale warfare up until now, and have barely used air combat forces.

Compare Russia’s infrequent use of aircraft so far, to the US invasion of Iraq, as an example. The US darkened the skies with combat aircraft for weeks, performing sorties by the thousands, and eliminating air defenses, infrastructure, power and communications. Russia has not done that in Ukraine, and I have already explained why. But, if they decide to, Ukraine has no answer, militarily. At the outset of this “war”, a full scale invasion would have seen Russia slice through Ukraine’s defenses like a hot knife through butter. Russia’s tactics were limited to surgical strikes, and ground force combat. They have way more than that in an all out invasion.

Do you think Russia has no Air Force, or something? They have a variety of sophisticated combat aircraft that have been used sparingly, if at all, so far.

What needs to happen, and hasn’t yet, is an emergency meeting to bring the parties to the table and stop this madness now, before it gets totally out of control.

If Russia goes in full bore, no holds barred, Ukraine is going to be reduced to a smoldering hole in the ground, and the only way the US-NATO could stop it, would require the unthinkable response.

The only peaceful solution here is for the US puppet regime in Ukraine to agree to a cease fire, and recognize the Donbas region’s full autonomy, which they don’t appear to be amenable to. But, nothing short of that will be acceptable, and Russia has made that clear. That region which includes a significant population of ethnic Russians have been under attack by the Ukraine military for 8 years. Civilians. 60,000 have been killed by Ukraine’s military over the past 8 years. 60,000. !!!
And there really is an easter bunny
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