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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
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Old 04-01-2024, 11:56 AM
 
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This war would have to go on for a very long time before Russian dead would approach one million. Since we know Ukraine has lost only 31000 how many do you think Russia has KIA?
We only know 4 things for sure.

Ukrainian dead are more than Ukraine admits
Ukrainian dead are less than Russia says.
Russian dead are less than Ukraine says.
Russian dead are more than Russia admits.

My point is Russia will send the waves of soldiers until it works. The Russian army has improved quite a bit from its Yakety Sax days in the first few months of the war.
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Old 04-01-2024, 12:06 PM
 
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Putin is not looking to march across the world. He knows he is not capable of that. His goal is to reassemble the Soviet Union. Whatever we have spent on military aid to Ukraine is a bargain compared to what was spent in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
Only minus the three Baltics since they are NATO. But if he succeeds in Ukraine the plan was Moldova next, then possibly Georgia and then the "stan" countries plus Azerbaijan and Armenia.

It's for a "good cause" then they are willing to spend as much as they need, like liberating Iraq from the evildoer Saddam Hussein and finding the WMD's.
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Old 04-01-2024, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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We only know 4 things for sure.

Ukrainian dead are more than Ukraine admits
Ukrainian dead are less than Russia says.
Russian dead are less than Ukraine says.
Russian dead are more than Russia admits.

My point is Russia will send the waves of soldiers until it works. The Russian army has improved quite a bit from its Yakety Sax days in the first few months of the war.




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Old 04-01-2024, 02:32 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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.............My point is Russia will send the waves of soldiers until it works. The Russian army has improved quite a bit from its Yakety Sax days in the first few months of the war.
Memories of Bennie Hill!

But I don't think it will ever work.
Russia is not capable of occupying an unwilling Ukraine. They have spent two years working hard to insure they will never be welcome in Ukraine.
They can bomb it. Pulverize it, even. But they cannot control it; they simply do not have the ability. Since every Ukraine soldier or civilian killed has relatives and friends who will never forget or accept what Russia has done, it doesn't look very good for Russian officials who may try to govern Ukraine.
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Old 04-01-2024, 02:41 PM
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Only minus the three Baltics since they are NATO. But if he succeeds in Ukraine the plan was Moldova next, then possibly Georgia and then the "stan" countries plus Azerbaijan and Armenia.

It's for a "good cause" then they are willing to spend as much as they need, like liberating Iraq from the evildoer Saddam Hussein and finding the WMD's.
Putin wants the Baltics to connect to Kalingrad. And Russia has tried to destabilize Estonia and Lithuania with decent sized Russian minorities.
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Old 04-01-2024, 02:44 PM
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Memories of Bennie Hill!

But I don't think it will ever work.
Russia is not capable of occupying an unwilling Ukraine. They have spent two years working hard to insure they will never be welcome in Ukraine.
They can bomb it. Pulverize it, even. But they cannot control it; they simply do not have the ability. Since every Ukraine soldier or civilian killed has relatives and friends who will never forget or accept what Russia has done, it doesn't look very good for Russian officials who may try to govern Ukraine.
Much as they faced in Afghanistan. And we faced in Afghanistan. And the other side there did not have the same capability as the Ukrainian army.

Unlike the Afghans, the Ukrainians are facing extermination, not just a change in culture, so they will be very unlikely to simply quit.
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Old 04-01-2024, 02:50 PM
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Only minus the three Baltics since they are NATO. But if he succeeds in Ukraine the plan was Moldova next, then possibly Georgia and then the "stan" countries plus Azerbaijan and Armenia.

It's for a "good cause" then they are willing to spend as much as they need, like liberating Iraq from the evildoer Saddam Hussein and finding the WMD's.
Also I don't think Russia wants the "stans" other than maybe Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan has lots of fertile fields and still has a large Russian minority. The Russians have mostly left the other Stans. Turkmenistan is lightly populated but has lots of oil. The Uzbeks, Tajiks and Kyrgyz have Muslim populations with high fertility rates and not many resources. I don't think Putin wants that.
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Old 04-01-2024, 03:02 PM
 
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Also I don't think Russia wants the "stans" other than maybe Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan has lots of fertile fields and still has a large Russian minority. The Russians have mostly left the other Stans. Turkmenistan is lightly populated but has lots of oil. The Uzbeks, Tajiks and Kyrgyz have Muslim populations with high fertility rates and not many resources. I don't think Putin wants that.
Yeah, probably not those three for the reasons you stated. I just assumed he would want ALL of the old Soviet Union back. I think he'll want Azerbaijan and Armenia. Those have a lot of resources from what I imagine.
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Old 04-01-2024, 03:23 PM
 
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Putin wants the Baltics to connect to Kalingrad. And Russia has tried to destabilize Estonia and Lithuania with decent sized Russian minorities.
At least Estonia is trying to limit voting to citizens.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/estonias-...082737987.html

Estonia's ruling Reform Party introduced legislation to strip the voting rights of non-citizens, the vast majority of whom are ethnic Russians, the Estonian media outlet ERR reported on April 1. The proposal would only impact local elections.

Tensions between Moscow and Tallinn have significantly sharpened since the beginning of Russia's full-scale war in Ukraine.

Estonia has been one of the leading military donors to Ukraine in terms of share of GDP since the beginning of the all-out war in 2022. Prime Minister Kaja Kallas, a member of the Reform Party, and other Estonian politicians have also been particularly outspoken about the threat that Russia poses to Europe.
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Old 04-01-2024, 06:01 PM
 
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Obtaining quality recruits by Ukraine is a major problem.

https://avia-pro.net/news/ukrainskay...y-oficerov-vsu
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