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Old 06-10-2023, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Denys update..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC6g3of7MVo
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Old 06-10-2023, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Another 2.1 Billion package just approved to go to Ukraine.

Apparently we have a bottomless pit of money available for the priorities of another country.

It was either that, or free crack pipes. It looks like they made the right call. And believe me, I am not crazy about giving billions away to foreign governments. But this war should have been prevented altogether, and with far less expense and bloodshed. But the west displayed weakness when Biden was installed, and the rest is history. It's not often that an empire leaves the gates open by selecting one of the weakest members of the population to represent and "lead" them. Putin could not turn down the opportunity.

The money spent will be worth it if it keeps 2.1 billion away from the socialists here in America actively trying to dismantle and take this country down.


Send Ivan back to Siberia and tell Karen to go read the constitution.
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Old 06-10-2023, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Well Deny is definitely in a better mood.
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Old 06-10-2023, 07:07 PM
 
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Zaporozhye direction - where to wait for the next strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Judging by the latest news (and logically too - hitting the forehead of the 291st regiment is stupid to infinity), today it is still worth waiting for a change in the direction of the enemy's main attack. He demonstrated very clearly tonight with smoke in the old direction (1).

It remains only to find out exactly where he will hit - to the right (3.4) or to the left of Orekhov (2).

Each option has its own advantages.

If along the reservoir (2), then the overall idea of ​​the operation remains unchanged - an attack on Tokmak (the central point of local roads). Taking Tokmok sharply limits our room for maneuver (plus it is impossible to defend a bunch of directions without being able to help the neighbors), which allows the enemy to hit further in any direction. The situation for us in this case will be awful. But there is also a BUT. The geography there for an offensive, especially for heavy NATO equipment, is not the most suitable (the terrain is very rugged).

But in the Gulyaipole area (3) and further (4) - the geography for the "counterattack" is the most suitable. But there it is already necessary to develop a completely different operation. The capture of the same Canopy does not provide the same strategic advantages as the capture of Tokmak.

In general, we look. I think tonight should give us all the answers.
https://t.me/yurasumy/9240


Zaporozhye direction - situation at 0.00 11.06.23

So, straight to the directions:

In the Orekhovskoye direction, as expected, relative calm. That is, the enemy clearly changes the direction of the main attack.

The attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Maly Shcherbakov area looks somehow very stereotyped and is very reminiscent of attacks on the 291st regiment, only without heavy NATO equipment. Enemy infantry does not reach our positions. Even on the approach, our artillery and aircraft put them to flight.

And from here, it turns out that this is a demonstration.

But southwest of Velikaya Novoselka (4), the enemy, according to data from the field, popped much stronger. Plus, there is a lot of armor here.

For now (but we will make final conclusions by the morning, when everything becomes clear), everything converges to the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine decided to abandon the strategic prospects of taking Tokmok and decided to try to get a small victory by the NATO summit (July 11-12), but which looks more accessible ( in more detail about what I am - in the morning in a large analysis of the battles during the night).

https://t.me/yurasumy/9241
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Old 06-10-2023, 07:11 PM
 
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Yeah..usually a sex scandal is what brings them down.

Like the one with DSK...that ended his career at the IMF after he decided the IMF should actually HELP poor countries instead of letting them wallow in debt to the IMF.



As example:


1999. War in Yugoslavia. Result: creating precedent of the military force use without UN Security council consent. Hypothetically, public distraction from Clinton/Lewinski scandal. US attacks Kenia and Tanzania, in response to the US ambassies bombing, on August the 20th, exactly when Lewinski was testifying in front of the Grand Jury. Next Clinton operation is done December 16-20th, exactly during the impeachment hearing.
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Old 06-10-2023, 07:14 PM
 
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Really....like anybody knows how this is going to turn out and make conclusions. Thats just ridiculous. These are the opening phases of a counter offensive. How long will Russia be able to put up a stiff resistance? Do you know the answer to that question?? I mean this is a war for crying out loud. One week in and its all decided. Please.



Seriously? Real question is - how long Ukraine will be able to put up stiff offensive? You DO realize the difference in the military potentials between the two, do you?
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Old 06-10-2023, 07:49 PM
 
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Well that didn't work out too well.


https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/...lanned-trained
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Old 06-10-2023, 07:51 PM
 
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As example:


1999. War in Yugoslavia. Result: creating precedent of the military force use without UN Security council consent. Hypothetically, public distraction from Clinton/Lewinski scandal. US attacks Kenia and Tanzania, in response to the US ambassies bombing, on August the 20th, exactly when Lewinski was testifying in front of the Grand Jury. Next Clinton operation is done December 16-20th, exactly during the impeachment hearing.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajcW1NB3yC4
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Old 06-10-2023, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Nice shot of McCain down the page with some of the boys.


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Old 06-10-2023, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Russia has been quite masterful in their use of used refrigerator parts eh?
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