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Well its not as bad as a country losing its Flagship....in a Land War....against country that doesn't have a Navy.
That's probably going to happen a lot in the future. Hypersonic missiles are a game changer and will render modern navies obsolete if these missiles cannot be successfully shot down. Maybe submarines are going to be a better alternative than giant floating targets.
Or, ya know, the decision could have been made purely by Ukraine. They're not children; they're capable of making their own decisions.
Wrong. They would never do anything that isn't approved of by the United states, especially an attack on Russia. That doesn't mean they don't have opinions, but it does mean they are heavily constrained because they can't afford to offend their patron.
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"America" has been very clear with Z about their own military technology not being used to attack Russia. We'll see how that works out. But those terms were outlined to Z from the beginning.
America says a lot of **** that turns out to be false. That is the nature of war.
"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near." - Sun Tzu
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I think both sides need to tread very, very carefully.
Ukraine is doing its job. Lindsey Graham just said out loud what the plan was all along. The Ukrainians are irrelevant. They are just attack dogs for American Empire.
What? The Russian people were consistently haemorrhaging per capita income throughout virtually all of the 1990s in a terrible depression. It wasn't until 2000 around the time of Putin's election that the overall standard of living and productivity began to improve. Whatever faults Putin has let's not pretend that somehow Russia was better off without him. Ask how many Russians feel that they should return to an era like the 1990s where their country was subject to economic exploitation by the West and the standard of living had dropped precipitously post-91. I doubt you'll find many who agree with you.
As for the Russian citizenry who have left the country, yes, the ones who were more inclined towards the Western cultural and economic standards have left. The estimates run as high as 900,000 who have left since 2022... Russia was losing close to that amount every year following the Soviet collapse due to emigration. It's hardly anything new. Looking at their population estimates at the moment they're closer to the all time high of 148,000,000 now than back over a decade ago when their population had dipped to 142,000,000.
Unless you are asking the ones who were forced to fight in Ukraine.
That's probably going to happen a lot in the future. Hypersonic missiles are a game changer and will render modern navies obsolete if these missiles cannot be successfully shot down. Maybe submarines are going to be a better alternative than giant floating targets.
The "hypersonic" missiles that Ukraine been able to shoot down multiple times?
This is becoming more and more of a shaky Russia where others have eyes on historical territory. The Kremlin better step up its game and aggression or else they’ll be done! Instead, the Kremlin is just playing the waiting game to win - bad move!
This is becoming more and more of a shaky Russia where others have eyes on historical territory. The Kremlin better step up its game and aggression or else they’ll be done! Instead, the Kremlin is just playing the waiting game to win - bad move!
Germany has closed 4 Russian consulates in retaliation for Russia reducing the numbers of Germany's government staff working in Russia. Their relation has deteriorated even further now. Germany is probably more open to sending more weapons to Ukraine now.
Germany has closed 4 Russian consulates in retaliation for Russia reducing the numbers of Germany's government staff working in Russia. Their relation has deteriorated even further now. Germany is probably more open to sending more weapons to Ukraine now.
I wish Germany would send active military not just "volunteers".
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Russia may be devoured by its neighbors.
How?
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Kalingrad talking about becoming European, not Russian.
Twenty people in Kaliningrad, paid by western NGO's, claim that a break from Moscow is inevitable.
Wow, must be true.
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The "hypersonic" missiles that Ukraine been able to shoot down multiple times?
I also believe everything Zelensky says. He is the second-coming.
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Unless you are asking the ones who were forced to fight in Ukraine.
You do realize Ukraine has forced-conscripted exponentially more troops than Russia has. Ukrainian men haven't been able to leave the country since February 24th 2022. Ukraine has turned their entire country into a prison with no freedom of speech/press and where dissenters are imprisoned/tortured/murdered.
If you present this information to westerners, they excuse it with "Ukraine is defending their country", or "Russia invaded", or some other such retardation.
This is becoming more and more of a shaky Russia where others have eyes on historical territory. The Kremlin better step up its game and aggression or else they’ll be done! Instead, the Kremlin is just playing the waiting game to win - bad move!
Fake news written by a Ukrainian journalist. Or rather, overly-optimistic news in the extreme. It's true certain sentiments have been voiced, but not in a serious way. Japan isn't planning to mount an invasion of the Kuriles to take them back. And who is Poland to claim Eastern Prussia? Let the original Baltic inhabitants ( mainly their descendants at this point) have it back. (But Russia's not letting their military base at the West's back door go.) And China's not going to take any territory back, after telling the Tsar to stop disturbing the international order.
Learn to discern between legit news and fluff.
So much wishful thinking from Ukraine! But...can you blame them?
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