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That's exactly what happened during the coup d'etat back in 2014.
Since Ukrainian nationalists couldn't win during peaceful elections ( the South-East wouldn't have any of it - they were voting overwhelmingly for Yanukovich,) the Nationalists had to come to power with violence, and with the help of the American embassy.
And that's why Putin learned by now, that the violence can be removed only with violence. All those "Minsk agreements" of his didn't work.
Nazi were more popular in some western parts of U but in my time there they would not considered by majority of voters, but now with $$$ input.
One Ukrainian defender said this about the battlefields: One day the Russian took part of Bahkmut; the next day we took it back.
It can go back and forth for a while before one side takes over decisively. Anyone still remember that steel plant in Mariupol? It took the Russian months but they eventually won that battle. Also, I would not hope for a victory because there is some friction among the Russian leadership, or that Russia will one day run out of missiles.
What Ukraine needs to win are weapons that can overwhelm and destroy the body and the will of the invaders.
One Ukrainian defender said this about the battlefields: One day the Russian took part of Bahkmut; the next day we took it back.
It can go back and forth for a while before one side takes over decisively. Anyone still remember that steel plant in Mariupol? It took the Russian months but they eventually won that battle. Also, I would not hope for a victory because there is some friction among the Russian leadership, or that Russia will one day run out of missiles.
What Ukraine needs to win are weapons that can overwhelm and destroy the body and the will of the invaders.
What needs to happen is for NATO to just stand up and do the right thing, and put an end to this once and for all. Send all of NATO's resources into the Ukraine and start carpet bombing the hell out of the occupied territories non-stop until there is absolutely nothing left. And if that is still not enough for the Russians to cease their aggression, then do the same thing to Russia. Russia is no match for NATO. They can't win against NATO. Letting the Russians delude themselves into thinking they are a match for NATO is just ridiculous.
What needs to happen is for NATO to just stand up and do the right thing, and put an end to this once and for all. Send all of NATO's resources into the Ukraine and start carpet bombing the hell out of the occupied territories non-stop until there is absolutely nothing left. And if that is still not enough for the Russians to cease their aggression, then do the same thing to Russia. Russia is no match for NATO. They can't win against NATO. Letting the Russians delude themselves into thinking they are a match for NATO is just ridiculous.
That's a path no one will take. Everyone is content with not getting directly involved and give the Ukrainians support to fight for themselves.
Russia and China did the same thing to the US during the Vietnam War. They provided North Vietnam with military and financial assistance to wear out the Americans.
If the allies remain committed long enough, Russia will wear out too.
That's a path no one will take. Everyone is content with not getting directly involved and give the Ukrainians support to fight for themselves.
Russia and China did the same thing to the US during the Vietnam War. They provided North Vietnam with military and financial assistance to wear out the Americans.
If the allies remain committed long enough, Russia will wear out too.
We have to either fight now and put an end to Russia's empire, so everybody can live in peace, or this will continue forever. Right now Russia is extremely vulnerable. They might not be so vulnerable in the future.
We have to either fight now and put an end to Russia's empire, so everybody can live in peace, or this will continue forever. Right now Russia is extremely vulnerable. They might not be so vulnerable in the future.
Good point.
Difficult to imagine how Russia comes back from this. Could happen, but hard to see how.
Last week, Prigohzin, announced, "Wagner would no longer be tapping prisons to fill its ranks," and that this would, of course, "impact the fighting."
Steve Hendrix and Serhii Korolchuk report in the Washington Post that with the Russians inching forward, Ukrainians are preparing fallback defense lines as the ferocious defense of Bakmut continues.
However, on Crimea: the Crimean issue has been repeatedly heralded as evidence of Putin's imperialism. In fact, however, there is at least one commonality between Crimea's return to Russia and the 2022 special military operation, which continues to this day.
Both were reactive.
Crimea was indeed given to the Ukraine by the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (not by the Soviet Union) during the early years of Nikita Khruschev's time as general secretary of the Soviet communist party. Khruschev had worked in Ukraine as a party leader and was fond of Ukraine and Ukrainians even though he was Russian by birth and by ethnicity.
After the U.S.-led coup forced President Viktor Yanukovych from power, the new powerholders began to issue ominous decrees targeting the ethnic Russians who are numerous in the far east of Ukraine. Those decrees included warnings against the use of the Russian language and the practice of Russian cultural customs (even though the Ukrainian constitution expressly acknowledges and protects the speaking of Russian).
Crimeans felt threatened.
The referendum took place and the vote was overwhelmingly in favor of a rejoining with Russia.
As for the situation now, Ukrainian fighters murdered thousands of Donbass Russians since 2014. Moscow asked Kiev repeatedly for the latter to stop this, and it refused. As well, Ukraine failed to fulfill its obligations as per the Minsk Agreements; had it instead done its part, Ukraine would have to this day retained geopolitical control of that region.
People like Zelensky have nobody but themselves to blame for the fact Crimea returned to Russia and that there are parts of eastern Ukraine which the Russians have taken. Their imprudent actions brought all this to bear.
You say well have to agree to disagree. What part of it do you agree with? The part that because it was the Soviet Union 50 years ago that it should belong to Russia? The part that a coup that may have been led by the US gives Russia the justification to invade Ukraine a decade later? Or do you believe that if a majority of people in a country want to leave that they should be allowed to?
I will have to go point by point explaining these reasons ( because there was more than one, that forced Russia to go to war with Ukraine, as much as Putin was trying to avoid it for the last eight years.)
And I will, just give me some time to respond, because PART of his propaganda is true, PART - is not.
Still waiting.
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