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Old 01-01-2022, 05:24 PM
 
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Dear Winterfall8324,

Wait til you get a load of one of our "Just Because It's Tuesday" parties!

Signed,

Your New Neighbors

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Old 01-01-2022, 05:27 PM
 
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Even the original Inca were located above the Equator line.
Well, if you're just going to come up with lies to support your point...

Happy Festivus!
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Old 01-01-2022, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The Inca Empire is from the southern hemisphere.

And while we're on the subject, ever notice that most of the land on the globe is located in the northern hemisphere, while most of the water on the globe is located in the southern hemisphere. Think that might have something to do with the rise of more civilizations north of the equator?
Inca's all migrated from Mesoamerica anyways.

But while we're at it the Incas started a little over the equator line before spreading south:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ansion.svg.png
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Old 01-01-2022, 05:38 PM
 
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Stop your celebrating and fireworks, today is not a new year and yesterday was NOT new years eve.

It is the middle of winter, the new year starts at spring.

Spring is birth, summer is the flourishing, fall is when things start to fall, and winter is the season of death. The new year starts at rebirth, not on some arbitrary month like 'January'.

Many cultures through out history knew this, but Cesar wanted to celebrate the god JANUS which is why he chose the month. It is Roman propaganda, and by extension western propaganda.

The Chinese New Years starts in February or early Spring. Persia (Iran) has Nowruz in March, also thought of as the start of Spring. And the Islamic calendar is similar to the Persian one.

The oldest is the Babylonian who had new years during the March EQUINOX because it was common sense that spring, the season rebirth, is the start of a new cycle.

So why do we follow the Gregorian calendar? Because the Roman way was adopted by the Catholics, who then enforced it on the world by conquering ancient tribes in Asia, Africa, and the Americas.

Look at the countries today that don't celebrate January 1st: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ye...st_January.png

These countries were not colonized. India was but it was never repopulated.

We have the center of Hinduism, the center of Confucianism, the Center of the Persian world, and the center of the Islamic world. That is pretty much all of the old world except for the Christians who westernized states like Japan, Iraq, Africa, etc. so they too except this illogical conclusion.

January first is the MIDDLE of winter, how does that make sense as a start to the new year? It doesn't make sense. So go home and stop celebrating.

You are correct that the designation of January 1st as the first day of the new year was a Roman invention, but Caesar had nothing to do with it.

May 1st was the first day of the new year until 222 BC.

After 222 BC it became March 15th and remained so until 153 BC when it was again changed, this time to January 1st.
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Old 01-01-2022, 05:45 PM
 
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Inca's all migrated from Mesoamerica anyways.

But while we're at it the Incas started a little over the equator line before spreading south:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ansion.svg.png
Uh, no. The Inca people originated around what is now the Peruvian Department of Cusco, located in the south end of the country. It's that little red area on the map that you included in your response.

Additionally, the Inca people weren't the first civilization in South America; they just built the largest empire there. Check out the Wikipedia article about Andean cultures. Or don't, as they disprove your claim.
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Old 01-01-2022, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Uh, no. The Inca people originated around what is now the Peruvian Department of Cusco, located in the south end of the country. It's that little red area on the map that you included in your response.

Additionally, the Inca people weren't the first civilization in South America; they just built the largest empire there. Check out the Wikipedia article about Andean cultures. Or don't, as they disprove your claim.
Everyone from South America came from Mesoamerica.
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Old 01-01-2022, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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Mmmmkay.


It’s all arbitrary, anyway. Why declare it to be any one time?
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Old 01-01-2022, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Here's an interesting take on time from long ago...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kwYY9prGSI
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Old 01-01-2022, 06:02 PM
 
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It's also celebrated by my fellow Pennsylvania provincials ... as Groundhog Day.
That was in the post if you'd read it through.
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Old 01-01-2022, 06:04 PM
 
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I've viewed Imbolc as the midway point between winter/spring where you "get ready" but not the start of life.
I'd be like..."yay, the end is near" because I do not like winter. Not many places where you can plant in Feb.
By March (spring solstice) you see sprouts and see the life.

Who would have thought to have a decent debate on calendars/time/history/religions in the P&OC forum !!!
. Yup, who would have!

You will see spring long before I will.
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