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Old 12-23-2021, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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They want to take more and more control away from parents. This is such a sickening overreach of power and voters refuse to see it.

 
Old 12-23-2021, 10:48 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
State and federal legislators introduce hundreds- thousands of bills each year. Most go no place, fast.

19 million people are not going to flee the state.

Keep us informed about any state or federal Government taking over the means of all production- Communism.
For the millionth time, when the government controls companies, they are essentially taking over the means of all production. What’s really the difference between Democrat mandates, taxes, excess regulations and China? No difference. Anyone not complying is fined and or jailed.
 
Old 12-23-2021, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Originally Posted by Axxlrod View Post
Why anyone would vote D is beyond me. This is what the Dems want. Absolute power.
Because unfortunately their policies(economics, infrastructure, healthcare, etc) are popular with the majority of this country. They are also hated less than the Republicans.

The problem is they cater too much to the right to water down those policies, because they don't want to be called commies. So we're stuck with neo-liberalism which has been garbage for this country.
 
Old 12-23-2021, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Lotsa fear porn in that tweet. But I have zero sympathy for the anti-vaxx contingent that create these responses by officials.
While there isn't much that comes out of New York that would surprise me, I honestly thought that this was over-the-top fear mongering. But nope. It's real. Don't take my word for it, see for yourself on the New York State Senate website, concerning New York State Assembly Bill A416:

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Section 1. The public health law is amended by adding a new section
2120-a to read as follows:
§ 2120-A. REMOVAL AND DETENTION OF CASES, CONTACTS AND CARRIERS WHO
ARE OR MAY BE A DANGER TO PUBLIC HEALTH; OTHER ORDERS. 1. THE PROVISIONS
OF THIS SECTION SHALL BE UTILIZED IN THE EVENT THAT THE GOVERNOR
DECLARES A STATE OF HEALTH EMERGENCY DUE TO AN EPIDEMIC OF ANY COMMUNI-
CABLE DISEASE.
2. UPON DETERMINING BY CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE THAT THE HEALTH
OF OTHERS IS OR MAY BE ENDANGERED BY A CASE, CONTACT OR CARRIER, OR
SUSPECTED CASE, CONTACT OR CARRIER OF A CONTAGIOUS DISEASE THAT, IN THE
OPINION OF THE GOVERNOR, AFTER CONSULTATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER, MAY
POSE AN IMMINENT AND SIGNIFICANT THREAT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH RESULTING
IN SEVERE MORBIDITY OR HIGH MORTALITY, THE GOVERNOR OR HIS OR HER DELE-
GEE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE COMMISSIONER OR THE HEADS OF
LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENTS, MAY ORDER THE REMOVAL AND/OR DETENTION OF SUCH
A PERSON OR OF A GROUP OF SUCH PERSONS BY ISSUING A SINGLE ORDER, IDEN-
TIFYING SUCH PERSONS EITHER BY NAME OR BY A REASONABLY SPECIFIC
DESCRIPTION OF THE INDIVIDUALS OR GROUP BEING DETAINED. SUCH PERSON OR
GROUP OF PERSONS SHALL BE DETAINED IN A MEDICAL FACILITY OR OTHER APPRO-
PRIATE FACILITY OR PREMISES DESIGNATED BY THE GOVERNOR OR HIS OR HER
DELEGEE AND COMPLYING WITH SUBDIVISION FIVE OF THIS SECTION.
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416

To boil it down: if the Governor thinks you're a health risk, he can lock you up. This is tyranny. This must not be allowed to happen anywhere in the United States of America. Anyone who would even submit such a bill should be impeached and removed from office immediately. As long as New York State is a part of this country, this tyranny must be stopped. If they want to secede and form their own country, then they can do whatever they want, as long as they give enough time for actual Americans to flee before they seal up their borders.
 
Old 12-23-2021, 11:19 AM
 
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Well, being the empire state of course the politician people want to rule following king Cuomo's lead.
Cuomo was ousted a while ago. NYS now has somebody much worse at the helm.
 
Old 12-23-2021, 11:30 AM
 
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The last four eliminating parental consent and allowing for the state to arrest anybody it seems a health risk are the ones I’m against. Arbitrarily being able to lock someone up like that is just asking for North Korean style snitching. And I don’t understand what possibly could the the motivation to lessen parental involvement with regards to medical decisions.

The rest of it? Eh, we were going to get the shots anyway. It’s insulting to have daddy tell you do do something we were going to do anyway, but no more than that. I’ve no base-level objection to masking or vaccines.

I’m neutral on religious exemptions. I’ve no dog in that hunt.


I can’t vote in NY nor would I be listened to as I don’t live there. But I am moving there next year and I can tell you I’m not voting for more gub’ment or bureaucracy.

Bigger picture. You know, forrest-trees. Also see: Death by a thousand cuts.
 
Old 12-23-2021, 11:35 AM
 
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The thing that sucks for many NY’ers is the state is mostly red, by land mass.
Unfortunately it is the least populated.
So all of the whacko clownshoes from the city metro area dictate what is right for the entire state. The population in a few square miles outnumbers the entire rest of the state.
What’s right for the city blue haired tatted out butch lesbian may not necessarily be right for the knuckle dragging redneck upstate. It’s all out of whack. NY needs a conservative Governor, even if only for one term to keep things in check and maybe undo some of the existing draconian nonsense.
 
Old 12-23-2021, 11:44 AM
 
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The thing that sucks for many NY’ers is the state is mostly red, by land mass.
Unfortunately it is the least populated.
So all of the whacko clownshoes from the city metro area dictate what is right for the entire state. The population in a few square miles outnumbers the entire rest of the state.
What’s right for the city blue haired tatted out butch lesbian may not necessarily be right for the knuckle dragging redneck upstate. It’s all out of whack. NY needs a conservative Governor, even if only for one term to keep things in check and maybe undo some of the existing draconian nonsense.
In that case the red areas need to secede or break off and join a neighboring state that is not as bad.
 
Old 12-23-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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In that case the red areas need to secede or break off and join a neighboring state that is not as bad.
That’s been proposed a gajillion times over the years…ain’t happening. Never.
The Hitler governors need to pull back the reigns and give more control to local governments.
 
Old 12-23-2021, 11:53 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Which one of the bolded is using mRNA?
In the near future many/most of those vaccines will likely use mRNA technology. And the vaccines given to children are not chosen by politicians or ordinary citizens, they are chosen by scientists and medical groups like the American Academy of Pediatrics.

Currently the "AAP recommends COVID-19 vaccination for all children and adolescents 5 years of age and older who do not have contraindications using a COVID-19 vaccine authorized through an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)."

https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-no...ked-questions/

And scientists are already testing and studying mRNA vaccine use in children under 5. And scientists with concerns about mRNA vaccines in children are already recommending the vaccine for young children during COVID outbreaks (the main scientific concern with children and mRNA vaccines is the dosage they should be given.)

https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/...s-in-children/

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Which one of the bolded has been rushed, and not thoroughly studied for years?
The production and distribution of the mRNA COVID vaccine was rushed by a republican president.

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Which one of the bolded has hidden documents for 70+ years? Which one of the bolded had all of the animals die in the trials, but was still administered to the public, anyway? Which one of the bolded gets you censored if you talk about it or any side effects a person got from it? Which one of the bolded kept giving the shots when thousands died from it, without pulling it, regrouping, and coming up with something safer?

Which one?
Republicans rushed the use of this mRNA vaccine, and when facts like this are ignored and covered up, how does it expose the (reality) of the things you said above?
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