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Old 10-08-2021, 12:40 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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The perfect storm ingredients have been added and mixed together. It is brewing now. Paying people to not work all year has some people liking not working. Other people wanting to go back to work have decided not to after Biden and Fauci told them they are not safe at work even with the vaccine in them. People that are willing to work are being banned from working because of their personal health choices.

It's already starting with shortages and much higher inflation than expected and the FED now admitting it won't be just transitory.

Last year I was the sad sap listening to the experts saying not to stock up. Wiping my ass with leaves won't happen to me this year. I am buying items and stocking up like crazy. 1 item limits everywhere, so buying what is available one at a time from multiple stores each and every day. I am going to stock up to the roof.

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Old 10-08-2021, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Encouraging people to hoard just makes the situation worse.

Maybe we need some entrepreneurs to start manufacturing stuff here in the US again so we are not so dependent on other countries for our goods.

Or maybe some strong young people could apply for jobs at the docks to unload all the cargo.
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Old 10-08-2021, 12:55 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Encouraging people to hoard just makes the situation worse.

Maybe we need some entrepreneurs to start manufacturing stuff here in the US again so we are not so dependent on other countries for our goods.

Or maybe some strong young people could apply for jobs at the docks to unload all the cargo.
Unfortunately the longshore workers are not the problem, they make an average of $80-$100,000 and there is no shortage. The problem is the shortage of truck drivers, to get the unloaded goods onto the trains or into the warehouses of the retailers. The longshoremen can unload the ships, but need trucks to put the onto, and when the container terminal runs out of room the ships have to remain offshore. Manufacturing here would be a big help, but so would young people becoming truckers, and that is not exactly a glamorous career for someone with a degree in political science, psychology, or IT.
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Old 10-08-2021, 12:59 PM
 
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The obvious answer is to actually pay what the "free market" decides they are worth. But now all of a sudden that "free market" stuff is disregarded. LOL
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Old 10-08-2021, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Bought a house in the country with acreage last year, there's a spring fed creek which runs through it year round for emergency water, getting solar installed soon (provided the parts are available when I place the order), currently doing the planning to maximize the production of our vegetable garden and we've got chickens already. Loaded up on "emergency" food last year and we're picking up a side of beef from the processor in a couple of weeks.

Seen this coming for a long time.
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Old 10-08-2021, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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The obvious answer is to actually pay what the "free market" decides they are worth. But now all of a sudden that "free market" stuff is disregarded. LOL
Right?

It's a world wide problem. It is to be expected in any pandemic. We run a just in time delivery system, which is great for profits, horrible for pandemics.
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Old 10-08-2021, 01:06 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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Great. Yet another "Time to panic as the world is coming to an end" thread.
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Old 10-08-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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This is ridiculous and totally self-inflicted.

Here's an idea - how about we manufacture our own stuff? We were moving back in that direction a few years ago. Now we are back to depending on others which is ridiculous for us to do that.
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Old 10-08-2021, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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It's already starting with shortages and much higher inflation than expected and the FED now admitting it won't be just transitory.
Hmmmm .... Maybe because this is a global issue and not just a US issue?

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Last year I was the sad sap listening to the experts saying not to stock up.
Go spread your panic in the prepper forum.
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Old 10-08-2021, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Encouraging people to hoard just makes the situation worse.

Maybe we need some entrepreneurs to start manufacturing stuff here in the US again so we are not so dependent on other countries for our goods.

Or maybe some strong young people could apply for jobs at the docks to unload all the cargo.
Cargo ships haven't been unloaded by hand by longshoreman in decades. With the exception of bulk cargo like oil, grains and chemicals most cargo arrives via 20' and 40' ocean containers. longshoremen unload them one at a time with cranes and place them on trailers where trucks haul them to a container year for examination and release by Customs and Border Protection (CBP). All of the imported cargo has to have entry paperwork filed on it by a customs broker so that it can be released by CBP. The back up at the ports has nothing to do with a labor shortage.
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