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Old 03-15-2021, 09:26 AM
 
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New covid cases in Europe are on the increase again. Its easy to see why. The EU was extremely slow at approving vaccines and getting them distributed. The authorities seemed content in dotting all the I's and crossing the T's which is now coming back to bite them. Less than 10% of EU residents have been vaccinated compared to over 21% in the USA. So what happened to Europe with its big government and socialized medicine? Why has it failed them so badly?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...w-restrictions

A third wave of the Covid pandemic is now advancing swiftly across much of Europe. As a result, many nations – bogged down by sluggish vaccination campaigns – are witnessing sharp rises in infection rates and numbers of cases.

The infection rate in the EU is now at its highest level since the beginning of February, with the spread of new variants of the Covid-19 virus being blamed for much of the recent increase.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:42 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I suspect, by the time this is over, we will have had at least fourscore "waves" and each of us will be in forced solitary confinement, wearing hazmat gear and air tanks, indefinitely.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:45 AM
 
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Hopefully not. The vaccine should help at least for now. My point was many on the left looked to Europe as the example of how to deal with a pandemic. Lock downs, massive contact tracing, very strict rules on life. Yet they can't get it under control. They are now doing much worse than the USA which is interesting.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:50 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Europe is proving to be a leading indicator for what happens in the states. Given that southern states are "spiking the ball at the five yard line" and the more contagious strains have taken root, a new surge wouldn't surprise me.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:52 AM
 
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I’m done with all this nonsense. It’s time to live normally and let God sort it all out.

It’s not my problem if you aren’t strong enough to fight the virus off, nor should it be your problem if I’m not strong enough.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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More fear porn for CONTROL!
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I’m done with all this nonsense. It’s time to live normally and let God sort it all out.

It’s not my problem if you aren’t strong enough to fight the virus off, nor should it be your problem if I’m not strong enough.
That's a great attitude, if we can get 80% of our population vaccinated. If not, the virus won't be dying off, it will be lingering, and the longer it lingers, the more variants will arise, and the harder to treat it will become.

Herd immunity is what will ultimately make this virus go away.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Maybe if they'd opened up, they'd be in herd immunity like the US is!
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Hopefully not. The vaccine should help at least for now. My point was many on the left looked to Europe as the example of how to deal with a pandemic. Lock downs, massive contact tracing, very strict rules on life. Yet they can't get it under control. They are now doing much worse than the USA which is interesting.
Only because they have not been vaccinated as quickly as is happening in the U.S., we now have three vaccines to choose from and they have Astra Zeneca, and two European countries have suspended its use over concerns of side effects.
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Old 03-15-2021, 10:03 AM
 
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That's a great attitude, if we can get 80% of our population vaccinated. If not, the virus won't be dying off, it will be lingering, and the longer it lingers, the more variants will arise, and the harder to treat it will become.

Herd immunity is what will ultimately make this virus go away.
I honestly don’t care anymore. We have 100 million vaccinated now. Will this vaccination be useful against the dozens of new strains that will surely emerge in the future? Who knows?

The only thing I’m sure of is that this nonsense has to stop. It’s time to normalize and let whatever happens, happen.
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