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I'd like to begin by stating that it isn't at all my intention to stoke the flames of paranoia , on the contrary my intention is quite the opposite , albeit admittedly in a somewhat ominous " the Grinch will get you if don't behave " sort of way .
That said I must say that sort of message may well have its uses , since the usual sort of " play nice kids " type one has limited uses when applied to adults and in the current climate can well make one seem like a laughingstock .
All that said I'm starting up this topic because I'm curious to see the consensus that exists regarding it here , especially among those who consider their rivals on the opposite side of the spectrum to be the real danger to this country .
Because if we keep on fighting each other , then we may very well find ourselves with a much bigger enemy on our backs .
No, because the Chinese and the Russians are not really interested in territory in North America, except for some extremists who might want Alaska. Or I guess some Pacific island bases. Although, I could see them wanting to dominate Canadian resources.
What they are really are interested in is dominating their own continents, especially for the Chinese in Asia and the Russians in Europe. They would love to see a weaker and isolationist USA, maybe a medium sized power still playing a role in North American affairs but leaving the rest of the World for Russia and China.
Personally, I think in such a world, without a "world policeman" and a balance of power, Russia and China will soon at each other's throats. In fact I think it is bound to happen sooner or later anyway. We already see signs that the Russians are hedging their bets by trying to improve relations with nations that have problems with China, like India and Vietnam.
No, because the Chinese and the Russians are not really interested in territory in North America, except for some extremists who might want Alaska. Or I guess some Pacific island bases. Although, I could see them wanting to dominate Canadian resources.
What they are really are interested in is dominating their own continents, especially for the Chinese in Asia and the Russians in Europe. They would love to see a weaker and isolationist USA, maybe a medium sized power still playing a role in North American affairs but leaving the rest of the World for Russia and China.
Personally, I think in such a world, without a "world policeman" and a balance of power, Russia and China will soon at each other's throats. In fact I think it is bound to happen sooner or later anyway. We already see signs that the Russians are hedging their bets by trying to improve relations with nations that have problems with China, like India and Vietnam.
Yeah, even with a weakened US, the logistics of a cross ocean invasion would be prohibitive. Taking advantage of the situation to consolidate power within their existing spheres of influence - possibly including US territories - is much more plausible.
That is preposterous to think any country will invade the US. There is also very little chance of a civil war.
The main dangers moving forward is:
1) ANTIFA growing stronger, getting more organized, and coordinating more attacks
2) The far right militias becoming more active, joining together, and going after soft targets
I don’t think it matters who wins, there will be an increase in violence. I urge everyone out there to become hyper vigilant and take steps to ensure the protection of your families.
No, because the Chinese and the Russians are not really interested in territory in North America, except for some extremists who might want Alaska. Or I guess some Pacific island bases. Although, I could see them wanting to dominate Canadian resources.
What they are really are interested in is dominating their own continents, especially for the Chinese in Asia and the Russians in Europe. They would love to see a weaker and isolationist USA, maybe a medium sized power still playing a role in North American affairs but leaving the rest of the World for Russia and China.
Personally, I think in such a world, without a "world policeman" and a balance of power, Russia and China will soon at each other's throats. In fact I think it is bound to happen sooner or later anyway. We already see signs that the Russians are hedging their bets by trying to improve relations with nations that have problems with China, like India and Vietnam.
I tend to agree with your synopsis. Russia and China have their own interests. Conquering and occupying USA territory isn't one of them, other than perhaps on a very limited, strategic basis, like an island outpost or something similar. Russia and China have very big problems with each other at the moment. Even bigger problems between China and India, with the CCP incursions in Ladakh and the LAC.
Everybody, everywhere has problems with China at the moment. They put up a strong front, but they truly are a paper tiger. China would rather buy their power, which they're quite good at (thru bribes to local government officials), than forcibly take it militarily. They simply cannot do so.
India has pretty much shut China off, and will become their greatest competitor as being the world's manufacturing hub. As the world is decoupling from China as we speak. Vietnam will benefit greatly as well. This is already having a devastating effect economically for China.
Indeed, India is the key to the 21st century global order as time passes. The Indo-Pacific is the hot spot for world economic interests. India is already a founding part of the "Quad" alliance, that sees the USA, India, Japan, and Australia in position to counter and stifle China's ambitions in the south China sea. The Phillipines are on the fence, but VietNam, Malaysia, Singapore, are ready to join the Quad. The usual suspects will align with the Quad as well, like the UK, Canada, France, other Europeans.
Russia is also courting India as well. The USA and Russia could easily become allies against China. Relations with Russia could be on a positive track right now, if it weren't for a certain political party in the USA casting shade on that possibility.......Think about that.
The position China is being put in after the covid 19 issue, will see the CCP doing one of two things. Striking out militarily, which will end badly for them, or the CCP will simply collapse internally, resulting in civil war there. Either way, the CCP's days are numbered, AS LONG AS PRESSURE IS MAINTAINED. The Dems will end that pressure.
Democrats in the USA are on the CCP's payroll. Kamala Harris pretty well summed it up in the debate, they'll go soft on China. Trump can take out the communists here, there, and everywhere, if the Dems get the hell out of the way. The dems are stoking violence, upheaval, and even civil war, using citizens of the USA as pawns, in order to keep their CCP overlords in power, and their gravy train going here.
I imagine that somewhere on the order of 98% or a bit more people don't pay attention to what is going on globally, as usual. That's why so many are taken by surprise when a major conflict arises somewhere, and then have to educate themselves as to why it's happening. The WOKE, are truly asleep.
All in all, In the event of a major civil conflict in the USA, I see China doing what they already are. Supporting financially thru backdoor organizations, and buying influence, and covert infiltration. Russia, much the same, but to a far lesser degree. Direct involvement just wouldn't happen....... Unless the dems try to invoke some BS at the UN, saying "peacekeepers" are required, which I imagine would happen right after the R POTUS invokes the insurrection act on the left wing violence.
Well, there's your lesson for the day, kids. Chew on it for a while.
Also, remember, Americans are well armed. We are not Socialist Europe, disarmed Asia or South America. And yes insurgents are effective at putting a huge hurt on modern invading Armies.
I tend to agree with your synopsis. Russia and China have their own interests. Conquering and occupying USA territory isn't one of them, other than perhaps on a very limited, strategic basis, like an island outpost or something similar. Russia and China have very big problems with each other at the moment. Even bigger problems between China and India, with the CCP incursions in Ladakh and the LAC.
Everybody, everywhere has problems with China at the moment. They put up a strong front, but they truly are a paper tiger. China would rather buy their power, which they're quite good at (thru bribes to local government officials), than forcibly take it militarily. They simply cannot do so.
India has pretty much shut China off, and will become their greatest competitor as being the world's manufacturing hub. As the world is decoupling from China as we speak. Vietnam will benefit greatly as well. This is already having a devastating effect economically for China.
Indeed, India is the key to the 21st century global order as time passes. The Indo-Pacific is the hot spot for world economic interests. India is already a founding part of the "Quad" alliance, that sees the USA, India, Japan, and Australia in position to counter and stifle China's ambitions in the south China sea. The Phillipines are on the fence, but VietNam, Malaysia, Singapore, are ready to join the Quad. The usual suspects will align with the Quad as well, like the UK, Canada, France, other Europeans.
Russia is also courting India as well. The USA and Russia could easily become allies against China. Relations with Russia could be on a positive track right now, if it weren't for a certain political party in the USA casting shade on that possibility.......Think about that.
The position China is being put in after the covid 19 issue, will see the CCP doing one of two things. Striking out militarily, which will end badly for them, or the CCP will simply collapse internally, resulting in civil war there. Either way, the CCP's days are numbered, AS LONG AS PRESSURE IS MAINTAINED. The Dems will end that pressure.
Democrats in the USA are on the CCP's payroll. Kamala Harris pretty well summed it up in the debate, they'll go soft on China. Trump can take out the communists here, there, and everywhere, if the Dems get the hell out of the way. The dems are stoking violence, upheaval, and even civil war, using citizens of the USA as pawns, in order to keep their CCP overlords in power, and their gravy train going here.
I imagine that somewhere on the order of 98% or a bit more people don't pay attention to what is going on globally, as usual. That's why so many are taken by surprise when a major conflict arises somewhere, and then have to educate themselves as to why it's happening. The WOKE, are truly asleep.
All in all, In the event of a major civil conflict in the USA, I see China doing what they already are. Supporting financially thru backdoor organizations, and buying influence, and covert infiltration. Russia, much the same, but to a far lesser degree. Direct involvement just wouldn't happen....... Unless the dems try to invoke some BS at the UN, saying "peacekeepers" are required, which I imagine would happen right after the R POTUS invokes the insurrection act on the left wing violence.
Well, there's your lesson for the day, kids. Chew on it for a while.
They would, however, take many liberties around the world while we were distracted.
Attacking us directly would basically cause the sides to come back together to fight a foreign enemy.
They wouldn't be that stupid.
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