George Zimmerman Sues Trayvon Martin's Family (senator, gun owner, prosecute, legal)
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He was up until he attacked a stranger and got what he deserved for his foolish mistake...
And therein lies the biggest problem with "stand your ground" laws. What if Trayvon had a reasonable belief that the man following him around was going to commit serious bodily harm toward him? That makes his "attack" 100% legal.
Until he starts winning the fight, I guess, then the other guy gets to "stand his ground" and be legal.
But what if guy #2 starts winning? Can then guy #1 "stand his ground" again and be legal?
It's very imprecise legislation and if one of the people involved ends up dead, we end up here with not many definitive answers.
...or your father was a coward and allowed you to live in a crime infested hood while he hid at night and said "Yes sir" to the street thugs during the day.
Wait, Pedro. Aren't you the guy that has been criticizing "keyboard warriors" for the past several pages? Yet, here you are advocating for tough guy antics by someone's theoretical dad in a "crime infested neighborhood" filled with "street thugs". Pot meet kettle.
And therein lies the biggest problem with "stand your ground" laws. What if Trayvon had a reasonable belief that the man following him around was going to commit serious bodily harm toward him? That makes his "attack" 100% legal.
Until he starts winning the fight, I guess, then the other guy gets to "stand his ground" and be legal.
But what if guy #2 starts winning? Can then guy #1 "stand his ground" again and be legal?
It's very imprecise legislation and if one of the people involved ends up dead, we end up here with not many definitive answers.
Someone following you or looking at you isn't justification to assault them. "stand your ground" wouldn't apply. There is no "reasonable belief" based only on someone looking at you or following you around in public.
That's why there's no problem with the law.
Zimmerman's actions would have been murder if not for Martin attacking him. It should go without saying that you shouldn't attack strangers.
Someone following you or looking at you isn't justification to assault them. "stand your ground" wouldn't apply. There is no "reasonable belief" based only on someone looking at you or following you around in public.
That's assuming all Zimmerman did was walk behind him. We don't know what he might or might not have done to instigate a conflict. As I said, it's a problem.
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Originally Posted by bobbythegreat
...Zimmerman's actions would have been murder if not for Martin attacking him. It should go without saying that you shouldn't attack strangers.
And we're back to square one. We don't know that Martin "attacked" Zimmerman, only that Zimmerman claimed it to be so. Physical evidence only indicates that Zimmerman was losing the fight.
It doesn't go without saying that you should "attack strangers" - it wholly depends on what the stranger is doing.
That's assuming all Zimmerman did was walk behind him. We don't know what he might or might not have done to instigate a conflict. As I said, it's a problem.
And we're back to square one. We don't know that Martin "attacked" Zimmerman, only that Zimmerman claimed it to be so. Physical evidence only indicates that Zimmerman was losing the fight.
It doesn't go without saying that you should "attack strangers" - it wholly depends on what the stranger is doing.
There is no evidence whatsoever that his story is in any way false so the presumption is that it is true and he is innocent.
Apparently Martin's parents didn't teach him not to attack strangers and that's why he's dead, I truly hope you wouldn't teach your children that kind of behavior is acceptable because if you did, you'd be to blame if they attacked someone and ended up dead like Martin.
Defense is one thing, but attacking people for looking at you isn't self defense, it's begging someone to beat or kill you.
There is no evidence whatsoever that his story is in any way false so the presumption is that it is true and he is innocent.
Apparently Martin's parents didn't teach him not to attack strangers and that's why he's dead, I truly hope you wouldn't teach your children that kind of behavior is acceptable because if you did, you'd be to blame if they attacked someone and ended up dead like Martin.
Defense is one thing, but attacking people for looking at you isn't self defense, it's begging someone to beat or kill you.
Huh? So Zimmerman just glanced at him? We must be discussing 2 different cases..
Huh? So Zimmerman just glanced at him? We must be discussing 2 different cases..
There's no evidence whatsoever that he did more than look at him. Someone looking at you, or even following you around in public looking at you is not a legal justification for assault.
Yes, I do, because I paid attention, and you didn't. And I'm a lot smarter than you and thus more capable of understanding what the facts mean.
There is ZERO chance that Zimmerman was the aggressor.
ok Sherlock what facts? You keep spouting there are facts but post none.
Where I come from following someone around at night is considered aggressive behavior.
Zimmerman has a well documented past of anger issues as well as road rage issues. He also changed his story as he was being investigated.
What evidence did you see? Video cameras? Eye witnesses? Just because you want Zimmerman to be a hero doesn't make him one. He followed Martin. He pursued. That in any sane person's book is considered aggressive behavior.
Just admit it, your boy Zimmerman is a total A-hole and he was looking to play hero that night. No one in their right mind would want Zimmerman for a neighbor, let alone walking around outside their homes with a loaded gun. Before you say it, I am a gun owner and believe in CC as well as open carry. Guys like Zimmerman make all gun owners look bad.
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