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Old 07-22-2018, 10:30 AM
 
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It's not just rural, it also includes a lot of small towns and cities. In Northeast Pennsylvanian you have Luzerne and Lacakwanna counties with the small cities of Wilkes-Barre and Scranton. Total population between the two counties is about 500K.


If you go back ten years the Democrats held a 2:1 advantage with registered voters in Luzerne County and it's been like that forever. That has almost evaporated. Obama won here easily in both elections, that got flipped for Trump's election. In fact the margin of victory for Trump in PA can almost entirely be attributed to Northeastern Pennsylvania. It's no coincidence Trump made two stops here during his campaign one of which was the night before the election.



The Dmocrats just aren't getting it and as the move further to the left they are going to continue to lose voters.



I'll tell you the race to watch here in PA, Barletta Vs. Casey. Casey is an entrenched Democrat who is going to be very difficult to unseat but just like the presidential election I think this is going to be much closer than anticipated.
Great post, and yes Dems are ignorant regarding the shift of the wwc, which was once their base, to Trump. It was entirely predictable, but Dems were too busy making sure they continued trashing the wwc. It makes them feel good, I guess.
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Trump has nothing to lose. He's an old man. He is willing to sacrifice it all for the working class, even though it's not a profitable venture. It's about doing the right thing and working for the people, not the corporate sponsors.
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There’s a sucker born every minute.

There's a liberal CD troll without an argument born every minute.
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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where we neither regulate their employers to death, nor agree to trade deals-no questions asked, nor call them deplorables.
No you call them illegals ,you call them criminals ,you take away their children ,it is the republicans that are deplorable. Then you lie about who is doing it to them.
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Trump has nothing to lose. He's an old man. He is willing to sacrifice it all for the working class, even though it's not a profitable venture. It's about doing the right thing and working for the people, not the corporate sponsors.
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You don't really think that the first-quoted poster believes any of what he's saying? It's just a variety of Stockholm Syndrome, where the victims side with their captors or oppressors.
See above. And add to it the blunder of practicing psychiatry over the internet without a license.
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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The reason the republicans want to get rid of the middle class is becuase they don't fall to the ignorance of the right. Republicans hate college educated people look at the anti college post's here on C+D for proof.
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:47 PM
 
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No you call them illegals ,you call them criminals ,you take away their children ,it is the republicans that are deplorable. Then you lie about who is doing it to them.
illegal aliens committed a crime entering w/o permission.

They are therefore treated like criminals. 2.7 million citizens who are in jail have children, no whiny , crying eyes for them liberals?

In 2016, your position was thoroughly rebuffed in 31 states with 306 electoral votes.
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:51 PM
 
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I know a lot of people here hate CNN but there's an interesting article done by Ron Brownstein about this issue and how it's likely going to get worse.

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This accelerating separation leaves both parties in a precarious position. Many Republicans worry that under Trump they are losing support in the places that are adding population and jobs and increasingly relying on the places that are shrinking or stagnating on both fronts.

"As opposed to a wave, this (election) looks like a realignment and that's scarier," says Tom Davis, a former Republican representative from Northern Virginia, who chaired the National Republican Congressional Committee during his years in the House. "That is a bigger problem for Republicans long term, because we are winning the places that are not the growing tide (in population), they are the shrinking tide, and that's not where you want to be."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/polit...nia/index.html


Sounds like the GOP has a lot of work to do too in terms of winning back crucial parts of the electorate.
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:57 PM
 
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Sounds like the GOP has a lot of work to do too in terms of winning back crucial parts of the electorate.
GOP controls 30 governors offices, has all 3 chamber control in 5 times as many states as Dems, has the Senate and will add to it in 2018, POTUS, and will likely retain the House once again.

Dems have little work to do, as the party in the wilderness seldom does.
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:01 PM
 
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GOP controls 30 governors offices, has all 3 chamber control in 5 times as many states as Dems, has the Senate and will add to it in 2018, POTUS, and will likely retain the House once again.

Dems have little work to do, as the party in the wilderness seldom does.
I think they'll hold the senate unfortunately. The House looks a bit riskier but we'll see. But even as the article lays out, they're being too reliant on small towns that are not growing, they're going to have to figure out a way to pick up seats and hold their seats in more heavily populated and more educated districts which seems to be a challenge for them with Trump at the head of the party.
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:05 PM
 
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I think they'll hold the senate unfortunately. The House looks a bit riskier but we'll see. But even as the article lays out, they're being too reliant on small towns that are not growing, they're going to have to figure out a way to pick up seats and hold their seats in more heavily populated and more educated districts which seems to be a challenge for them with Trump at the head of the party.
Easy to do. Economy rolling, tax cuts a big seller, plus casual voters stay home in off years.

The voting pop in November will be a far higher % 50 plus, less diverse, than in POTUS years.
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