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Old 07-15-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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Same for smokers, drinkers, and so on?
Except there are some studies that show moderation in drinking is actually healthy. Same cant be said for smoking.
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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Insurance premiums could be tied to waist sizes. Those with waists in the generous healthy range pay $x. Those with waist sizes greater than the healthy range pay more based on how much more. Can’t afford it. Too bad.

Give the masses 2 years notice to drop the lbs.

Reducing the demand for healthcare will lower the cost of healthcare.
Increasing the supply of of hospitals, doctors, nurses etc. by getting the state out of it, thus lessening the reliance on insurance for all but the most catastrophic of illnesses is a better way. But heaven forbid people wean themselves off the teat of state.
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Same for smokers, drinkers, and so on?
How about runners and athletes? Their injuries rack up huge amounts each year.
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:38 PM
 
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Except there are some studies that show moderation in drinking is actually healthy. Same cant be said for smoking.
There are some studies that show weight doesn’t correlate directly to unhealthy either. Hell there is even a name for it “metabolically healthy obesity”.

Yet we all know being fat is bad for you. So maybe we should look at a preponderance of evidence instead of individual studies? Or will premiums change every time a new study comes out?
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:41 PM
 
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How about runners and athletes? Their injuries rack up huge amounts each year.
Or what if you’re normal weight but don’t eat well (this one resonates with me). Does the number of frapapchinos I have a week change my premium even tho I am still a size 10? Should it just be my size or so someone goin to monitor my food choices too?
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:58 PM
 
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Nothing we cant change with laws, taxes and really smart politicians. Remember the food pyramid?
Yup. Bought and paid for by big agriculture. It was a recipe for obesity.

When I was little, they promoted 3244. Three servings dairy, two protein, three vegetables, and three carbs.

I wonder sometimes if the dairy industry subsidized that. But overall, it was a better balanced diet than our current grain subsidized food culture.
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Old 07-15-2018, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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As long as people keep begging for free healthcare it belongs here as a reminder. Lazy unmotivated people want your tax dollars so they can remain lazy and unmotivated.
I know of no-one who is begging for free healthcare. What people are asking for is universal healthcare and/or single payer. Healthcare where the cost of treatment at time of delivery is nothing; rather it is paid for through taxes etc., just as other countries do.

It is sad that the U.S. spends significantly more per capita on health than the countries with universal healthcare, with worse outcomes.
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Old 07-16-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Same for smokers, drinkers, and so on?
Smokers have been paying higher premiums for 18 +/- years.
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Old 07-16-2018, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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good luck with that. We put folks in prison for putting unapproved substances in their bodies and that still doesnt stop them.
Being high is not a crime unless your driving.

Buying, selling, possessing may or may not be a crimes dependent on geography and substance.
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Old 07-16-2018, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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This shouldn't be that hard.
Eat a healthy diet, get adequate sleep (7-8 hrs), and do exercise.
If it was so easy, wouldn't everyone be doing it?

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Nothing we cant change with laws, taxes and really smart politicians. Remember the food pyramid?
LOL - you mean the one that recommends 6-11 servings of bread and cereal and other grains each day? Talk about a recipe for nutritive disaster ...
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