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Old 10-18-2015, 07:48 AM
 
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Millenniums already have near a 20 Trillion Dollar debt facing them. (By the time Obama leaves office, it should be the full 20 Trillion Dollar Debt. Obama started off with about 10 trillion in debt.)
He didn't force them to take the debt... learn to take personal responsibility and pay it back...
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Old 10-18-2015, 07:51 AM
 
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I think I'm going to keep my mouth shut in this thread.. I can see myself getting banned here...
Yes, me too.
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Wandering in the Dothraki sea
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What are you calling a boomer?

They were born between 1946 and 1964.
I don't really see this age group as predominantly in middle management positions anymore. Maybe the guys at the tail end?
Many of the boomers are retired.

No one in my dad's generation says much about millennials at all. Not that I've heard. Most of them don't get exposed to them. Remember, even if they are management, they'd likely be removed by at least one level from the millennials and be managing the people who manage them.
Yes, I'm talking about the same age group you are. Much of my work includes teaching software to many people in this age group, who, mostly in their 50's-60's are still in the workforce because of economic reasons. I don't know what kind of industry/company you're referencing, but it's a known issue that people are retiring much later these days because they can't afford it. Maybe that's part of why they are bitter. Combine that with slow technology learning tendencies/resistance to change, and it pits them against the fast-paced tech savvy, progressive-minded millenials.
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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While several people here are eager to blame President Obama let us not overlook the fact that GW Bush ran a close second.

US Debt by President: By Dollar and Percent


The younger generations are not stupid. They were born into a corporate society where most people are enslaved by debt. Elections produce the same results with the top money people running the country through their political puppets. I think most have simply given up hope along with their unemployed parents and grandparents. Most Americans, not just the young, have lost trust in our government.
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:13 AM
 
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Millennials have been indoctrinated into the emotional PC liberal thinking. They'd better wake up before it's too late.
What did you expect would happen to children raised by helicopter parents? Do you think millennials invented the notion of PC in a vacuum?
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:30 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Yes, I'm talking about the same age group you are. Much of my work includes teaching software to many people in this age group, who, mostly in their 50's-60's are still in the workforce because of economic reasons. I don't know what kind of industry/company you're referencing, but it's a known issue that people are retiring much later these days because they can't afford it. Maybe that's part of why they are bitter. Combine that with slow technology learning tendencies/resistance to change, and it pits them against the fast-paced tech savvy, progressive-minded millenials.
I'm not sure if you realize this - but social security keeps raising the retirement age. Most people do not retire in their 50's and nor will you, my friend.

Many studies show that the longer you remain productive and an active member of society, the better off you are.

Unfortunately, I spend time training new hires on various techniques. While they may be great at the computer, they actually have to learn to think on their own. A bit more difficult.
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes, I'm talking about the same age group you are. Much of my work includes teaching software to many people in this age group, who, mostly in their 50's-60's are still in the workforce because of economic reasons. I don't know what kind of industry/company you're referencing, but it's a known issue that people are retiring much later these days because they can't afford it. Maybe that's part of why they are bitter. Combine that with slow technology learning tendencies/resistance to change, and it pits them against the fast-paced tech savvy, progressive-minded millenials.
Retirement age for SS is between 66 and 67.
Did you not know that ?
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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Retirement age for SS is between 66 and 67.
Did you not know that ?
I wasn't talking about SS. My company, for instance, will allow you to retire with pension at 55. I included into the 60's.

But my whole point was that it's generally the boomer generation, as evidenced by this thread, that seems the most openly hostile to millennials. OP, what year were you born?
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Old 10-18-2015, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I wasn't talking about SS. My company, for instance, will allow you to retire with pension at 55. I included into the 60's.

But my whole point was that it's generally the boomer generation, as evidenced by this thread, that seems the most openly hostile to millennials. OP, what year were you born?
Not with a full pension though. It's usually a reduced pension.
And then you have 12-13 years to go before you can apply for full SS.

Very few non public sector folks take early retirement with reduced pensions.

The early retirement crowd is usually public sector where they still get a fairly high pension.

Public sector early retirees get health insurance while private sector early retirees don't.

http://crr.bc.edu/wp-content/uploads...slp_21_508.pdf
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Old 10-18-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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Not with a full pension though. It's usually a reduced pension.
And then you have 12-13 years to go before you can apply for full SS.

Very few non public sector folks take early retirement with reduced pensions.

The early retirement crowd is usually public sector where they still get a fairly high pension.

Public sector early retirees get health insurance while private sector early retirees don't.

http://crr.bc.edu/wp-content/uploads...slp_21_508.pdf
It's amazing how a socialist program like SS works, right? Who would've thought
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