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Old 09-29-2015, 04:55 PM
 
Location: USA
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If he can get it on a plane
You can't even get past the TSA with one of these
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Ahmed didn't actually build clock. It's just a disassembled, store-bought clock.-ray-gun.jpg  

 
Old 09-29-2015, 04:56 PM
 
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You do realize that all he did was remove six screws and place the components in a box?

He didn't make a single modification other than removing the original cover.

It would be more logical for me to be called an inspiring chef for removing a frozen pizza and placing it the oven. At least I'd be furthering development of that particular pizza.
None of that is actually known. He did for instance mount the display with screws which can plainly be seen.

Can't really tell whether other stuff is mounted or not or if he modified anything. Skeptical any of the commentators I have read so far know either. And I do understand this stuff and how it works.

One of the reasons I am so skeptical of you guys who have this all figured out. i know what can be discovered from the picture and you all know much more than the picture yields.

Do not misunderstand. I am very skeptical about how smart this kid actually is over the "invention" remarks. Some who have talked to him have indicated he is bright. But I am not sure any of them are qualified or have enough exposure to reach that conclusion. He talks about soldering and microprocessors and such but has not shown anything so far of significance. Note by the way a simple microprocessor clock and display would have looked virtually the same to the English Teacher though they would have been more significant an accomplishment.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 05:08 PM
 
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None of that is actually known. He did for instance mount the display with screws which can plainly be seen.

Can't really tell whether other stuff is mounted or not or if he modified anything. Skeptical any of the commentators I have read so far know either. And I do understand this stuff and how it works.

One of the reasons I am so skeptical of you guys who have this all figured out. i know what can be discovered from the picture and you all know much more than the picture yields.

Do not misunderstand. I am very skeptical about how smart this kid actually is over the "invention" remarks. Some who have talked to him have indicated he is bright. But I am not sure any of them are qualified or have enough exposure to reach that conclusion. He talks about soldering and microprocessors and such but has not shown anything so far of significance. Note by the way a simple microprocessor clock and display would have looked virtually the same to the English Teacher though they would have been more significant an accomplishment.
There are several photos on the internet of the exact clock he used taken out of the cover. Compare it to the picture of his clock and it's very obvious that screwing the display into place was all he did.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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That is what I did as a kid. I would disassemble electronics components and see how they worked, and then make my own gadgets. It was a blast. It's how young inquisitive minds learn how things work.
What's with these people? He didn't disassemble the clock and use the components in a different way. That would take an understanding of the components and circuitry. Instead, he took the entire assembled clock out of the plastic case and put it in a pencil box. There's absolutely no understanding of any of the components necessary, no understanding of the circuitry and nothing new was built. LVOC says the same thing.

These guys are claiming to have electronic experience, and yet seem to have zero understanding of electronics. Either that or they are purposefully playing dumb so that they can play the race card. It's stupid and disingenuous.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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Sorry this is very simple stuff. If you want a hoax bomb you need a hoax explosive. Even the cartoons need that. An alarm clock does not a bomb make. But attached it to a few sticks of dynamite, real or phony and you got a bomb. You are claiming basically the hoax requires only the alarm clock. Does not work in a cartoon why would it in real life?
You're babbling again. The 'hoax' bomb concept is a device a person uses to cause alarm or a reaction as though the item is an explosive or incendiary device. You don't need a fake explosive.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 05:15 PM
 
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You can't even get past the TSA with one of these
A guy in Scotland caused shutdown of Edinburgh Airport because he had one of these in his suitcase:


 
Old 09-29-2015, 05:15 PM
 
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There are several photos on the internet of the exact clock he used taken out of the cover. Compare it to the picture of his clock and it's very obvious that screwing the display into place was all he did.
I did. It is not. There is not enough views in the picture to tell. Note that until I just brought it up there has not been a single mention of the screws securing the display.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 05:20 PM
 
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I did. It is not. There is not enough views in the picture to tell. Note that until I just brought it up there has not been a single mention of the screws securing the display.
I yield. I forgot he is 14-years-old, and clearly any 14-year-old who can screw something in is pretty gifted, if not a true genius.

I'd say if he had also used a label make to put a 'Clock' sticker on the outside of the case, he should receive a full scholarship to MIT. Hopefully, he can acquire that skill in his post graduate studies.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 05:24 PM
 
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You're babbling again. The 'hoax' bomb concept is a device a person uses to cause alarm or a reaction as though the item is an explosive or incendiary device. You don't need a fake explosive.
Oh I see. Whenever you cannot refute your opponent is "babbling". Your private form of babbling?

You don't hoax a bomb without making it look like a bomb. If you were trying to do so the last person you would initially show it to is a person who will know what it actually is. It does not appear to be disputed that the kid showed it first to such a knowledgable person. That is incompatible with a hoax bomb.

The device is also physically incompatible with a hoax bomb as it obviously has no provision for an explosive or any mechanism that would approximate a detanator.

As I said before would you presume a freestanding alarm clock in a cartoon was a bomb? I would not.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 05:39 PM
 
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Oh I see. Whenever you cannot refute your opponent is "babbling". Your private form of babbling?

You don't hoax a bomb without making it look like a bomb. If you were trying to do so the last person you would initially show it to is a person who will know what it actually is. It does not appear to be disputed that the kid showed it first to such a knowledgable person. That is incompatible with a hoax bomb.

The device is also physically incompatible with a hoax bomb as it obviously has no provision for an explosive or any mechanism that would approximate a detanator.

As I said before would you presume a freestanding alarm clock in a cartoon was a bomb? I would not.
The engineering teacher advised Cboy that others in the school might not know what it was, and become suspicious. So what does Genius do ? Keeps it in an enclosed case, carries it around, and brings it to a class where an English teacher hears it ticking.

In a way, I understand why the term 'hoax bomb' is misleading you and many others. In the law and school policy, a device doesn't have to precisely resemble a bomb before schools or police can investigate and question.

Since the family won't let records be released of their son's interaction during questioning, I hope a judge eventually forces their release in a trial, or somebody leaks them to media.
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