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Old 09-27-2015, 01:38 PM
 
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Screw it...you win.
The good news is that now I am an inventor, too.
In fact, I just put some bandaids into a cigar box.
I think I'll get a patent for my first aid kit.
I have repeatedly made clear that he did not "invent" a clock. That is a different concept. And you will not invent a "first aid kit" either though you have "built" one.

 
Old 09-27-2015, 02:28 PM
 
Location: In a place with little freedom (aka USA)
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He basically took a production clock that he purchased, took it out of the plastic enclosure, and then put it in a case to make it look like a project of his.
Everything we learn in life is someone else's product or already written ideas.

If you learn to write code, you're just learning the rules someone else created.

Set out to build your own house, you're just "putting together" pieces that were invented by someone else for that purpose. Using standards already put forth centuries ago. So nothing is unique anymore.

That's the problem with this world, what is so bad about reinventing the wheel?
 
Old 09-27-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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Everything we learn in life is someone else's product or already written ideas.

If you learn to write code, you're just learning the rules someone else created.

Set out to build your own house, you're just "putting together" pieces that were invented by someone else for that purpose. Using standards already put forth centuries ago. So nothing is unique anymore.

That's the problem with this world, what is so bad about reinventing the wheel?
I don't think it's possible to "reinvent" anything.
 
Old 09-27-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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That's the problem with this world, what is so bad about reinventing the wheel?
A silver clock has the same innards as a white clock, even if the manufacturer is different. Why can't the kid change the case of the clock to make it his own?

We all put customized cases on our phones and some people have personalized license plates.
 
Old 09-27-2015, 03:43 PM
 
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I don't think it's possible to "reinvent" anything.
Happens all the time. And in all sorts of modes.

Painful sometimes. That is when you find out it is a reinvent.
 
Old 09-27-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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Happens all the time. And in all sorts of modes.

Painful sometimes. That is when you find out it is a reinvent.
The patent office refuses to issue patents on reinventions, because they are not inventions.
 
Old 09-27-2015, 03:54 PM
 
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If he would have built a nicer looking housing he would've repackaged it and there would be a display of creativity.
It the case of the pencil box, not only did it not showcase any creativity, it showcased his total lack of technical ability or mechanical ability. The whole thing was a sloppy mess and clearly he had no idea what anything was in there or he wouldn't have left the transformer as he did.

The only skill he's shown with this whole fiasco is his ability to play the victim, lie and be a tool of his father. Heck he wasn't even breaking any ground here as his sister already did the same thing before him...
 
Old 09-27-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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You being an adult electronics engineer really has nothing to do with this.
But you being an "electronics nerd" does have something to do with this?

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Also, I do not recall him ever saying he "invented" a clock, but rather "built" one.
It doesn't matter what you recall because that is what he said.

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You just have to think that the kid is 14. Kids do dumb stuff without thinking (I deal with them on a daily basis as a teacher).
I'm not denying that he did something dumb.

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I don't care what anyone says. If this kid was white, nerdy, and made good grades, this wouldn't have even been an issue. Most likely we wouldn't even know about it because it would have never blown up like this.
The white kid also wouldn't have gotten job offers from google, facebook, twitter, and microsoft. He also woudn't have gotten in invitation from MIT and Harvard and a bunch of free electronics from Microsoft and a "cool clock" comment from Obama.
 
Old 09-27-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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The white kid also wouldn't have gotten job offers from google, facebook, twitter, and microsoft. He also woudn't have gotten in invitation from MIT and Harvard and a bunch of free electronics from Microsoft and a "cool clock" comment from Obama.
This is very disturbing to me.
 
Old 09-27-2015, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I don't care what anyone says. If this kid was white, nerdy, and made good grades, this wouldn't have even been an issue.
Then how do you explain the pop tart incident or the myriad of other white kid incidents being caught up in the zero-tolerance liberal school system?
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