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Yes. What makes you think I believe otherwise? And I ask again, what do you think you can accomplish by telling a sub-80 IQ population their problems all stem from a "lack of effort".
What population has a sub-80 IQ? A very very small amount of people actually fit that category.
Problems in society stem from all levels to the Macro level down to the individual. There are problems caused by government programs, corruption, big business, etc...and of course personal choices.
African Americans now constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population
African Americans are incarcerated at nearly six times the rate of whites
Together, African American and Hispanics comprised 58% of all prisoners in 2008, even though African Americans and Hispanics make up approximately one quarter of the US population
According to Unlocking America, if African American and Hispanics were incarcerated at the same rates of whites, today's prison and jail populations would decline by approximately 50%
One in six black men had been incarcerated as of 2001. If current trends continue, one in three black males born today can expect to spend time in prison during his lifetime.
African Americans now constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population
African Americans are incarcerated at nearly six times the rate of whites
Together, African American and Hispanics comprised 58% of all prisoners in 2008, even though African Americans and Hispanics make up approximately one quarter of the US population
According to Unlocking America, if African American and Hispanics were incarcerated at the same rates of whites, today's prison and jail populations would decline by approximately 50%
One in six black men had been incarcerated as of 2001. If current trends continue, one in three black males born today can expect to spend time in prison during his lifetime.
Why are Asians less likely to be in prison than whites?
Is it due to Asian households having the highest rate of 2 parent households? As statistically, children in 2 parent households are less likely to wind up in prison.
Is it due to culture?
Is it due to socio-economic status?
Does society, police, the courts just favor Asians more than whites?
Roughly 10% of the population is in that category, which likely includes most residents of inner city ghettos.
I don't believe for a moment that most inner city students that I have worked with have an IQ below 80. The vast majority are well above it and many have very high IQs I would wager.
I don't believe for a moment that most inner city students that I have worked with have an IQ below 80. The vast majority are well above it and many have very high IQs I would wager.
You would lose that wager. Interpersonal skills and the traits measured by IQ tests (and most academic tests) do not necessasarily overlap. We associate sub-80 IQ in white or Asian kids with health problems and physical defects that are readily apparent. But most black kids at that IQ level are healthy and otherwise normal.
I don't believe for a moment that most inner city students that I have worked with have an IQ below 80. The vast majority are well above it and many have very high IQs I would wager.
So if IQ is not the problem then culture may be some of the problem ya think?
Your opinion is as dangerous as those who blame it all on blacks.
No, it's not. Again, false equivalency.
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon
Single parent kids are more likely to wind up in poverty, more likely to drop out of school, more likely to be dead beat dads or single mothers and more likely to wind up in prison -- even if you adjust for race, socio-economic status, and location.
Single parenthood comes down to a lot of personal choices that begets kids with less parenting equals more future poor personal choices. 67% of blacks kids are in single parent homes....67% of black kids are more likely to wind up in those bad circumstances - compared to 35% of the national average.
So what? We know this already. Again, what does this have to do with blacks creating their problems? Do you think single parent is a "black thing?"
My argument is crystal clear. Perhaps throwing black men in jail on petty drug crimes contributes to so many single parent households....
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon
There is also the risk of your attitude blaming personal choices on outside influences instead of taking ownership of ones life.
There is also a risk of your attitude that America is actually a meritocracy. Ha. Ha.
The rules are different for black people and white people. White people haven't had to deal with slavery, indentured servitude, being lynched, Jim Crow, housing segregation, the War on Drugs, and the School to Prison Pipeline.
That's the reason why some will always be poor and the victim. Dwell in your misery ever the more trying to pull others into your sad state.
LOL. What does my life have to do with anyone else's? You don't know anything about me. Find a new argument.
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Originally Posted by stburr91
I don't believe he is saying their problems stem from a lack of effort, but rather bad decisions induced but a destructive culture.
No one disputes some people make bad decisions. The point is, not all struggling black people are a result of bad decisions. If a white kid and a black kid smoke some weed, guess which one is going to jail? Guess which one won't be able to find a job after?
I don't believe he is saying their problems stem from a lack of effort, but rather bad decisions induced but a destructive culture.
"Lack of effort" is a direct quote from the first post of this thread.
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