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There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist/communist state.
1) Healthcare "Control healthcare and you control the people?
2) Poverty Increase the Poverty level as high as possible." Poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt Increase the national debt to an unsustainable level."
That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government."
That way you are able to create a police state - total local control.
5) Welfare Take control of every aspect of their lives" (Food, Livestock, Housing, and Income)
6) Education Take control of what people read and listen to take control of what children learn in
school.
7) Religion Remove faith in God from the Government and school.�
8) Class Warfare Divide the people into the wealthy against the poor. Racially divide. This will
cause more discontent and it will be easier to Tax the wealthy with full support of the voting poor.
There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist/communist state.
1) Healthcare "Control healthcare and you control the people?
2) Poverty Increase the Poverty level as high as possible." Poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt Increase the national debt to an unsustainable level."
That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government."
That way you are able to create a police state - total local control.
5) Welfare Take control of every aspect of their lives" (Food, Livestock, Housing, and Income)
6) Education Take control of what people read and listen to take control of what children learn in
school.
7) Religion Remove faith in God from the Government and school.�
8) Class Warfare Divide the people into the wealthy against the poor. Racially divide. This will
cause more discontent and it will be easier to Tax the wealthy with full support of the voting poor.
Are we almost there?
What a bunch of crap! The only "plan" at work here is people wanting to have a better life for themselves and their children. We would be doing the same things were the tables turned. Unfortunately, we can't let their desire for a better life destroy the quality of life that we enjoy through unbridled immigration and the burdens that places on our society.
What a bunch of crap! The only "plan" at work here is people wanting to have a better life for themselves and their children. We would be doing the same things were the tables turned. Unfortunately, we can't let their desire for a better life destroy the quality of life that we enjoy through unbridled immigration and the burdens that places on our society.
Immigrants (legal and illegal) are the biggest recipients of our welfare programs.
Sure they want a "better life"..one that US citizens are paying for.
We are importing poverty pure and simple.
Over $100 billion gets shipped out of the country every year as these immigrants send their money "home".
Where does that leave the US economy ?
There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist/communist state.
1) Healthcare "Control healthcare and you control the people?
2) Poverty Increase the Poverty level as high as possible." Poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt Increase the national debt to an unsustainable level."
That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government."
That way you are able to create a police state - total local control.
5) Welfare Take control of every aspect of their lives" (Food, Livestock, Housing, and Income)
6) Education Take control of what people read and listen to take control of what children learn in
school.
7) Religion Remove faith in God from the Government and school.�
8) Class Warfare Divide the people into the wealthy against the poor. Racially divide. This will
cause more discontent and it will be easier to Tax the wealthy with full support of the voting poor.
Are we almost there?
I posted the same thing in another thread, expect to be called a lot of nasty names because they can't attack the argument, they can only attack the person. That's because the argument hits too close to home, it's the truth and they don't like it.
Here's a kindergarten question: official story, These children left central america to escape poverty and violence(sniffle).. how is a child (allasudden 10's thousands) with hardly the clothes on thier backs able to cross an entire country? Thinking people could come to a conclusion.
Here's a kindergarten question: official story, These children left central america to escape poverty and violence(sniffle).. how is a child (allasudden 10's thousands) with hardly the clothes on thier backs able to cross an entire country? Thinking people could come to a conclusion.
There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist/communist state.
I can't believe this lie is still making the rounds.
"The above-quoted list of steps for "How to create a social state," circulated in January 2014, is another example of a political linking of the names of Saul Alinsky and Barack Obama. It's not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, though, and to those familiar with his background it doesn't even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about "controlling health care" is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of "increasing the poverty level as high as possible" is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve). This piece is simply a modern variant of the decades-old, apocryphal Communist Rules for Revolution piece which was originally passed along without attribution until Alinsky's name became attached to it (presumably because someone out there thought it sounded like something Alinsky might have written).
Read more at snopes.com: Saul Alinsky: How to Create a Social State
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Originally Posted by West Coast Republican
I posted the same thing in another thread . . .
Figures.
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I can't believe this lie is still making the rounds.
"The above-quoted list of steps for "How to create a social state," circulated in January 2014, is another example of a political linking of the names of Saul Alinsky and Barack Obama. It's not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, though, and to those familiar with his background it doesn't even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about "controlling health care" is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of "increasing the poverty level as high as possible" is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve). This piece is simply a modern variant of the decades-old, apocryphal Communist Rules for Revolution piece which was originally passed along without attribution until Alinsky's name became attached to it (presumably because someone out there thought it sounded like something Alinsky might have written).
Read more at snopes.com: Saul Alinsky: How to Create a Social State
Figures.
Sorry. Snopes is not good enough. Are you saying that Alinsky is not a socialist/communist?
Whether Alinsky actually said or wrote those exact words doesn't matter. The plan fits everything else he wrote and said like a glove.
Or, as the saying goes..."if the shoe fits..."
By the way, I didn't mention Obama. How did you make that leap?
There are plenty of sites out there that actually list Alinsky's 12 (not 8) rules. Feel free to look them up. Or better yet, provide a link to Alinsky's writing where he supposedly lists those 8 rules. Of course, you can't because you likely just cut and pasted from some email propaganda when you wrote your post.
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Originally Posted by southward bound
Are you saying that Alinsky is not a socialist/communist?
Moving the goal posts now, are we? Figures.
Also figures that you consider "socialists" and "communists" to be the same thing and hence interchangeable.
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Originally Posted by southward bound
Whether Alinsky actually said or wrote those exact words doesn't matter.
Oh really? It certainly matters when you write:
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Originally Posted by southward bound
This looks like all part of the plan...
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals...
There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist/communist state.
Perhaps you don't think that it matters that you are posting entirely false information, but it does.
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Originally Posted by southward bound
The plan fits everything else he wrote and said like a glove.
Oh, isn't that convenient.
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Originally Posted by southward bound
Or, as the saying goes..."if the shoe fits..."
Glug, glug, glug. That propaganda you slurp so greedily goes down easily, doesn't it. Perhaps you should think about why that is.
There are plenty of sites out there that actually list Alinsky's 12 (not 8) rules. Feel free to look them up. Or better yet, provide a link to Alinsky's writing where he supposedly lists those 8 rules. Of course, you can't because you likely just cut and pasted from some email propaganda when you wrote your post.
Moving the goal posts now, are we? Figures.
Also figures that you consider "socialists" and "communists" to be the same thing and hence interchangeable.
Oh really? It certainly matters when you write:
Perhaps you don't think that it matters that you are posting entirely false information, but it does.
Oh, isn't that convenient.
Glug, glug, glug. That propaganda you slurp so greedily goes down easily, doesn't it. Perhaps you should think about why that is.
I see you can't argue that those 8 points are applicable to the current state of the country.
Whoever wrote them -- they are being implemented, no?
The "crisis" on the border is just one more means of adding an additional burden. Thousands will be dispersed to processing centers, from which DHS says they will be "sent back home" (after, they report for a hearing, of course -- which can take as much as 2 years and most never report). More likely, the majority will end up living in poverty.
Last year, we had 50,000 illegals enter the country (some cite higher numbers); of those, 1300 were returned. Where did the rest disappear to?
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Are you saying that Alinsky is not a socialist/communist? 
