Several states are legislating to discriminate (Muslim, officials, discrimination, bill)
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This is right, and proper. No one should be forced by government to violate their religious beliefs. This is a First Amendment Issue as well as a 13th Amendment issue, which deals with involuntary servitude.
The government cannot force a business or individual to perform a personal service, involuntarily, which requires them to violate their religious beliefs. Likewise a church, which would normally provide wedding services to it's members, at times and places chosen by the couple, and which are usually unique for each couple, would be involuntarily pressed into involuntary servitude.
The Supreme Court already struck down using the 13th Amendment to justify discrimination. (Heart of Atlanta Motel v. US).
She violated state law. If she wanted to ride in the front of the bus she should have lived in another state.
She refused to give her seat in the black section of the bus to a white man. She was in the section that she was supposed to be in, but refused to move when told to give a white man her seat. She was also arrested and convicted of violating the segregation laws.
Is there a law saying that religious people can not open bakeries? No. Religious people can open any business they choose, but they must follow the laws regarding operating a business. Your personal religious beliefs do not give you the right to break the law.
Bills filed in the South Dakota and Kansas legislatures seek to protect clergy, church officials and businesspeople who refuse to provide services for same-sex marriages or receptions because of their religious beliefs.
The bills would prevent clergy or businesses from being forced to perform or supply goods or services to anything related to same-sex marriages. It could allow a business to refuse to host a reception for a same-sex couple legally married in another state.
The bills also say clergy and businesses could not be sued or charged with crimes if they refused to take part in gay marriages.
I'm def Ok with that since many of us; liberal OR conservative, would NOT support "arranged marriages" by Hindus, Muslims and so on.
She refused to give her seat in the black section of the bus to a white man. She was in the section that she was supposed to be in, but refused to move when told to give a white man her seat. She was also arrested and convicted of violating the segregation laws.
Is there a law saying that religious people can not open bakeries? No. Religious people can open any business they choose, but they must follow the laws regarding operating a business. Your personal religious beliefs do not give you the right to break the law.
Sometimes the law is an ass and needs to be violated.
She refused to give her seat in the black section of the bus to a white man. She was in the section that she was supposed to be in, but refused to move when told to give a white man her seat. She was also arrested and convicted of violating the segregation laws.
Is there a law saying that religious people can not open bakeries? No. Religious people can open any business they choose, but they must follow the laws regarding operating a business. Your personal religious beliefs do not give you the right to break the law.
Agree with you 100 percent about Ms Parks even tho in many countries she would've been called a "white" woman, especially in LatAm.
DISagree about being forced to do something that goes AGAINST one's morals so long as it's NOT racist.
Agree with you 100 percent about Ms Parks even tho in many countries she would've been called a "white" woman, especially in LatAm.
DISagree about being forced to do something that goes AGAINST one's morals so long as it's NOT racist.
Should anyone be allowed to use any personal religious belief to violate any laws they choose?
I can be ordained tomorrow, and start my own religion with any rules I want.
Sometimes the law is an ass and needs to be violated.
Do you believe that anyone should be allowed to use their personal religious beliefs to violate any law they choose? Or is it only religions, and circumstances, you personally agree with?
This is a non started and false info. No one can tell a member of a church to preform a marriage they do not want to. If that were the case the Jehovahs Witnesses will not allow anyone who is not a member in good standing or marries outside the cult to have a service for a wedding or anyone not in good standing or a member to have a funeral in the church [kingdum hall] The whole thing that is sparking this crap is that if you run a business that serves the public you can not discriminate on some things, that is you can't say we don't serve Nword here. You can't say we don't serve Catholics or people with kids. You can say we don't serve blonds or plumbers. Gay is the next protected class. You are not going to be able to discriminate based on that when its in the public domain. If you have a religious church that teaches its a sin to live a gay life style then you can preach it from your pulpit. Just as the KKK can preach they don't like Nword here. You can preach it you can not act on it. I can yell I hate Nword here from the roof tops and its my right, I can not act on it and burn a cross in a black familys yard.
No one FORCED the person to open a bakery or a florist shop. When the person CHOSE to open a business they agreed to serve the general public. If their religious beliefs prevent them from serving the general public, then they should not open a business.
As for churches they do not have to officiate ANY wedding that they choose not to officiate.
No one forced you to go to that specific baker and order a cake. You could to a store with a rainbow on the door and
a) shop where you are welcomed
b) support those who support you
People are born white, gay, black, not gay, whatever. Discriminating against gays is no less wrong than discriminating against blacks or whites.
It's really this simple and because most others won't, the government needs to protect gays from discrimination.
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