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Old 01-27-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Their religion which for many is very sacred and real to them is part of them..just go somewhere else.

Then maybe someone can make a buck off making a website and posting homosexual friendly businesses? Heck of an idea ya know...Problem is homosexuals do it on purpose they KNOW certain places are religious yet do it on purpose knowing the person/business will either bend to their way or won't serve them in which they can then file a lawsuit get rich and put the business out of business for good. Not a good way to make friends ya know. For every 1 that won't make yer cake,or do your floral arrangement there are 10 that will.
It may be sacred and real to them, but it is still a choice and that choice does not include a right to discriminate using that chosen religion. Is that so difficult to understand?

 
Old 01-27-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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The person running it may be a religious person. I don't think a person needs a reason to deny service. People truly just want something A. To complain about B. To sue someone over something silly and make money off of it. I can remember my mother being told 1 hair salon didn't do white people's hair they only did black women's. She didn't throw a fit or sue she simply said OK thanks can you point me to someone that does white folks hair and that's where she went! Thin skinned nation someone complains over something every day and its getting old.
How ignorant, black people have a different kind of hair then white people and the way to cut it, trim it, wash it is not the same, so the parlor was not discriminating, they just did not do black hair. Religion is a choice and it is not legal to use it to discriminate.
 
Old 01-27-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Religion is a protected class... period...
 
Old 01-27-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Its pretty simple. You say the customer has the right to FORCE a religious person to make a cake,make a floral arrangement,officiate a wedding but the religious person has no right to say no I won't do that. So you are OK with discrimination as long as its against the religious person. I hate religion as much as anyone but I agree with them here...I think ANYONE should be allowed to discriminate however they wanted. If today I went to a club or bar or store and was told no you can't enter because you are white,or Atheist or Socialist or Fat or Tall. I wouldn't file a lawsuit but I would make sure my friends knew and to avoid the place...economically boycott them...they would either go out of business or accept me plus WHY would I want to go somewhere I am obviously not wanted and could be harmed? No thanks.I am not a drama queen.
You are not an atheist, you are a troll. No church has to officiate over any wedding they refuse to perform and that will not change, but if a person wants to open a business to the public, then they are subject to all the laws that other businesses open to the public have to follow, they cannot use their religion to discriminate.
 
Old 01-27-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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How ignorant, black people have a different kind of hair then white people and the way to cut it, trim it, wash it is not the same, so the parlor was not discriminating, they just did not do black hair. Religion is a choice and it is not legal to use it to discriminate.
Doesn't matter. They can still cut a white person's hair IF THEY CHOSE TO. Just like a religious bakery can CHOOSE to bake a cake for someone whose views and lifestyle do not mesh with their religious views. You are forcing the bakery to either give up their business or their religious views instead of asking the person wanting the cake to just find someone who is willing to bake it.
 
Old 01-27-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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You are not an atheist, you are a troll. No church has to officiate over any wedding they refuse to perform and that will not change, but if a person wants to open a business to the public, then they are subject to all the laws that other businesses open to the public have to follow, they cannot use their religion to discriminate.
Not going to argue with an anonymous person on the internet over my religion/lack thereof, you say that now I can distinctly remember that the same thing was said for business's that were of religious nature...now we see what's happening...its just a matter of time.I am done with this thread...nothing else to be accomplished arguing with you.
 
Old 01-27-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Bills filed in the South Dakota and Kansas legislatures seek to protect clergy, church officials and businesspeople who refuse to provide services for same-sex marriages or receptions because of their religious beliefs.

The bills would prevent clergy or businesses from being forced to perform or supply goods or services to anything related to same-sex marriages. It could allow a business to refuse to host a reception for a same-sex couple legally married in another state.

The bills also say clergy and businesses could not be sued or charged with crimes if they refused to take part in gay marriages.
I support gay marriage but you can not force a minister to perform a marriage nor a business to provide you services unless those are healthcare related.
 
Old 01-27-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Doesn't matter. They can still cut a white person's hair IF THEY CHOSE TO. Just like a religious bakery can CHOOSE to bake a cake for someone whose views and lifestyle do not mesh with their religious views. You are forcing the bakery to either give up their business or their religious views instead of asking the person wanting the cake to just find someone who is willing to bake it.
It is a bakery, period, not a religious bakery. Ones religion does not make their business thus religious, if the baker wants to sell to the public, then it is to all of the public, not just those he/she feels is following their bible tenets. If he/she wants a religious bakery, then they need to do it through their church. Their religious views do not trump law.
 
Old 01-27-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Not going to argue with an anonymous person on the internet over my religion/lack thereof, you say that now I can distinctly remember that the same thing was said for business's that were of religious nature...now we see what's happening...its just a matter of time.I am done with this thread...nothing else to be accomplished arguing with you.
Bull, no religion has been forced to perform marriages it does not allow. And if you cannot see my moniker, then that is your problem, I am TheDragonslayer, so I am not anonymous. You I think are still a troll.
 
Old 01-27-2014, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Austin
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It is a bakery, period, not a religious bakery. Ones religion does not make their business thus religious, if the baker wants to sell to the public, then it is to all of the public, not just those he/she feels is following their bible tenets. If he/she wants a religious bakery, then they need to do it through their church. Their religious views do not trump law.
Oh really? I think not.

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