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Old 08-26-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Remember, the Left wants easier access to ALL drugs for everyone too. So after some drug addict guns someone down for drugs or money to get drugs, they will blame the weapon used instead of the situation they helped create by legalizing addictive and harmful drugs.
That is not true, and I am not a lefty. I want one of the greatest vegetables known to man, legal to grow and consume. If more people utilized this plant, instead of the dangerous pharmaceutical drugs, we would be seeing a lot more healthy, happy, peaceful populace at large.
Let's try and stick to the topic a little bit.
Terrorizing the people to combat terrorism is absurd and makes no sense. Especially when our infrastructure is as vulnerable as our borders. A few drops of Sarin in water supply, or sprayed into the air, and you've got a much scarier scenario than one ******* with a gun. Arm the teachers and that eliminates that problem.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:01 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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That is not true, and I am not a lefty. I want one of the greatest vegetables known to man, legal to grow and consume. If more people utilized this plant, instead of the dangerous pharmaceutical drugs, we would be seeing a lot more healthy, happy, peaceful populace at large.
Let's try and stick to the topic a little bit.
Terrorizing the people to combat terrorism is absurd and makes no sense. Especially when our infrastructure is as vulnerable as our borders. A few drops of Sarin in water supply, or sprayed into the air, and you've got a much scarier scenario than one ******* with a gun. Arm the teachers and that eliminates that problem.

I don't think he meant cannabis. I think we're talking about the dangerous side effects from anti-depressants due to when people suddenly stop taking them.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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"Now we have arsenals that would make your local police department jealous in basements across America"

Perhaps so. I wonder, how many of the owners of those "arsenals" have gone on killing sprees? Is such a scenario even worthy of consideration?

"Having been apparently well and truly indoctrinated in the NRA propaganda, you probably didn't realize that this was not the norm in the U.S."

Once again, sorry, but you don't know what you are talking about. There certainly were "arsenals" in the 1950s. I knew several people who owned multiple weapons back then, and not many were NRA members. In fact, our gun club got many of the weapons and ammunition from the Federal Government through the Director of Civilian Marksmanship (M-1 Garands and thousands of rounds of .30 cal.ball ammunition). The DCM sent the guns and ammunition every summer! We made sure we fired it all, so they wouldn't short us the next year.
Trying to blame everything on the NRA is foolish, if not completely stupid. The biggest "gun lobby" is the non-aligned gun owners who write their Senators and Representatives on a regular basis about gun issues. There are quite possibly more of those than there are NRA members.
It might behoove you to remember exactly WHO is the NRA or the GOA or any other organization: They just might be made up of your neighbors! With over 3 million members, so it is said, there is a good chance one or more lives next door to you, and you don't even know it!
I have heard from men that led squads in Iraq say they would be ill-equipped to deal with the average police force in the states today. Making people scared of the guy down the street is a strawman. Nothing in civilian hands compares to the weaponry our police state has access to.


The few can control the many, only if the many control eachother.

The only guarantee of peace, is to surrender.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:12 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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I'm trying to get this straight.

After Newtown, practically every con on this board and across the country took up the cry "Gun-free zones suck! Arm the teachers!"

Now that someone is actually proposing to do it ... it's bad?

(Confession: Although I may find this lightning-quick change of position confusing, I don't find it surprising. Any more so than I find it surprising when same posters who blamed the mentally ill for Newtown also squeal like pigs when a state tries to enforce its laws to keep the mentally ill from owning guns. )
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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I'm trying to get this straight.

After Newtown, practically every con on this board and across the country took up the cry "Gun-free zones suck! Arm the teachers!"

Now that someone is actually proposing to do it ... it's bad?

(Confession: Although I may find this lightning-quick change of position confusing, I don't find it surprising. Any more so than I find it surprising when same posters who blamed the mentally ill for Newtown also squeal like pigs when a state tries to enforce its laws to keep the mentally ill from owning guns. )
The problem isn't the message. It's the prism thru which you view it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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The problem isn't the message. It's the prism thru which you view it.
LOL. I have to admit, that's a new explanation for hypocrisy that I've never heard before. Well done!
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That is not true, and I am not a lefty. I want one of the greatest vegetables known to man, legal to grow and consume. If more people utilized this plant, instead of the dangerous pharmaceutical drugs, we would be seeing a lot more healthy, happy, peaceful populace at large.
Let's try and stick to the topic a little bit.
Terrorizing the people to combat terrorism is absurd and makes no sense. Especially when our infrastructure is as vulnerable as our borders. A few drops of Sarin in water supply, or sprayed into the air, and you've got a much scarier scenario than one ******* with a gun. Arm the teachers and that eliminates that problem.
It makes sense to them.
It provides realistic training and keeps the populace constantly reminded to be fearful.

Yup..the water supply over a bus of people would get you more bang for the buck.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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LOL. I have to admit, that's a new explanation for hypocrisy that I've never heard before. Well done!
No hypocrisy, just a fact. Everyone has their own prism. I have mine. The difference is that I'll admit it.

The problem is that your comparative statement is wrong, that's all.

Being for armed teachers but against these types of drills is not hypocrisy. You can have one and not the other.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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LOL. I have to admit, that's a new explanation for hypocrisy that I've never heard before. Well done!
Well the government did quite the about face as well from disarming America to funding armed personnel in schools.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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Well I guess when you see Chinooks and Blackhawks circling your city with armed solders hanging out of them you won't bat an eye and take it all in stride. You'll get that warm and tingly feeling of "being safe".

It's called normalization people.
That is like say that WHEN I see a alien space craft circling my city and creatures hanging out I will believe in aliens. your right but I haven't.
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