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Old 05-14-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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Illegal. Heads will roll over this one way or another.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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The public will want someone held accountable. This is dirty. I sure hope Obama knew nothing.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:33 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Default WAPO: IRS targeting of conservative groups also originated from IRS headquarters in DC....

not just from a rogue branch office as originally claimed:

IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups - The Washington Post
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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If an organization is applying for tax exempt status under 501c4, they are not supposed to spend the majority of their money on political activities. No one has an automatic right to this tax exemption. Thus, asking questions about their political activities, to determine whether the applicant is indeed spending a majority of its money on political activities, is exactly what the IRS should be doing.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:36 AM
 
Location: 44.9800° N, 93.2636° W
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I doubt he did, and in a way I can almost understand the logic...although I cant say I approve.

What do you expect an agency that deals with tax collection to do when you have a sudden influx of groups that preach about how we need to end taxation, etc? I cant say Im shocked they kept a watchful eye....but Im still not siding with that logic and I do not approve that this occurred.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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The IRS has a problem and it's not just targeting certain groups. They get millions of returns and can't possibly review all of them. Right now they have computer programs that spit out bad returns for various arithmetical reasons, they also specifically target specific groups such as the recent scrutiny of the EIC returns which found lots of fraud.

The only way the IRS could avoid targeting certain returns would be to conduct only random audits. This would not address the massive frauds taking place (like the millions lost in the debit card instant return frauds) and would negatively impact consistently honest small time taxpayers.

So, random audits only and eat the resulting fraud or submit your list of who should and should not be scrutinized?
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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Here is one of the letter the IRS data miners sent to harrass TEA Prty groups, and illegally obtain data
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Illegal. Heads will roll over this one way or another.
How was this list of questions illegal?
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The only group that lost tax exempt status from IRS, was a Dem group. Emerge America is all I have been able to find.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I find it amusing that you give Obama a pass from any responsibility, (as facts seem to indicate you should) but cannot resist the urge to somehow assign a degree of blame to Bush. Funny how that works.
Well, the biased audits that occurred during the Bush administration were pretty much ignored, so, clearly there is a double-standard at work yet again, and clearly there was precedent set that may have led to this current debacle.

The fact remains that President Bush did appoint someone who felt comfortable working in, or creating this environment. And we only need look at what happened with the federal attorneys (see David Iglesias) for evidence of similar behavior in other agencies.


So...
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