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Old 05-17-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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Liberties? What liberties? First these groups weren't denied their tax exempt status.

It is wrong for the government to favor one group over another. Those who do that shouldn't be in government.

Again, these groups are going to the government asking to be investigated by applying for tax exempt status.


The IRS by law is required to make sure these groups deserve that government handout.

The IRS didn't say hey group over there answer these questions. Those groups said hey federal government give us handouts by exempting the money our organization raises from taxes.
When the conservative group's applications were held for years, but liberal applications were approved quickly, they in effect lost money. And how many just disbanded because the process was taking so long?

If you think this is OK, then you deserve the dictatorship that is being put in place.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:02 AM
 
Location: High Cotton
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This administration needs to come clean...and that means scumbag Obama needs to come clean too. And...if he does come clean he'll be impeached - that is why he continues to lie and avoid dealing with all these scandals. Hopefully the truth will be dragged out of some of these people involved.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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Yes, they can sue. And maybe some will succeed. But I think that the hysteria that is currently happening will give birth to many, many lawsuits. But they will have to show that approval of their application was willfully delayed because of bias.

LOL, that shouldn't be too tough. You target one side of a political equation but not the other, yeah right, no bias there.

Just an oops, sorrry.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I don't care whether or not Congress finds out if this was "political".
What the IRS did was wrong.

Get the workers on the stand and ask them point blank who told them to do what they did.
Then get that guy on the stand and ask point blank who told them what to do that.
Work your way up until you get the person that originated the "faulty process".

When people are threatened with legal/jail time they will squeal if they were not responsible.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I wish you people would stop it with the Bush did it.. someone else did it.. Bush did a lot of things I didn't like but you don't hear me asking for his head. When are you people going to stop blaming someone else and take responsibility for the mess you created by putting numb nutz in the whitehouse?
My comment says nothing about Bush, it says Republican administrations. The person i responded to put forth the argument of deficits, debt and printing money as if a Republican in office would have changed that.

Ranting that "democrats always blame Bush" does not refute what i said in my comment.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:05 AM
 
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What you want everyone in the IRS fired? That's not realistic, what happens in these situations when is that the leaders are fired and they set new policies in place to make sure it doesn't happen. This is what is going on.

These groups were not denied tax exempt status. They all got it.
You are stretching. I hope they sue so their cases can get laughed out of court.
Except the "leader" wasn't fired. She was given another job (in charge of implementing ObamaCare, as if that's not terrifying enough), and therefore was under the delusion that she could avoid scrutiny.

It doesn't matter that they eventually got their exempt status. They weren't treated equally under the law, which is against the Constitution.

You lefties that think this is OK (because, face it, you want those groups to go away) should remember that if it happens to conservative groups, it could happen to "your" group in the future.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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What exactly did go on here?

The IRS received an overwhelming number of new applications for 501c4 tax-exempt status. Many of those groups were political groups masquerading as 'social welfare' groups. (The law limits 501c4 to non-political social welfare groups.)

The result was that nearly all of the groups were granted the status -- including Karl Roves Crossroads GPS, which is entirely political.

So, if the objective was to deny conservative and Tea Party groups tax-exempt status, they sure didn't do a very good job.
Labor-friendly groups applied at a higher percentage than conservative groups, yet their applications were approved at a much faster rate.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I don't care whether or not Congress finds out if this was "political".
What the IRS did was wrong.

Get the workers on the stand and ask them point blank who told them to do what they did.
Then get that guy on the stand and ask point blank who told them what to do that.
Work your way up until you get the person that originated the "faulty process".

When people are threatened with legal/jail time they will squeal if they were not responsible.
You dont get to change your argument after being proven wrong. Your response to me was about the motive, not the action it self, now you are saying you dont care about the motive because there is proof liberal groups were targeted as well.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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LOL, that shouldn't be too tough. You target one side of a political equation but not the other, yeah right, no bias there.

Just an oops, sorrry.
Only 2/3 of the applications that received closer scrutiny weren't conservative organizations.

That's a tough fact to overcome when you are asserting that they only targeted one side of a political equation. 2/3 of the applications weren't conservative organizations.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Labor-friendly groups applied at a higher percentage than conservative groups, yet their applications were approved at a much faster rate.
Where exactly are these rates ? And how do you have proof that the Labor friendly groups were political ?
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