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Old 06-27-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I remember those days.
I remember when the smog was so bad in NYC that people were confined to their homes for days.


No thank you.

Seems kind of silly that a court had to rule that the EPA should be allowed to do its job, but, this is just the kind of crazy world we live in now.
That is not what the court ruled. The court ruled that the EPA could regulate these 5 gases as greenhouse gases. This is NEW for the EPA.
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:18 PM
 
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We do know the amount of CO2 that has been in the atmosphere for at least the last 400,000 years based on ice cores and more recently, direct measurements, not computer models. The amount that is in the atmosphere today is at least 100ppm more than it has been at any time in the last 400,000 years. That can only be explained by CO2 emissions from human sources.
So when do you plan on doing your part to stop exhaling CO2?
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Tell me oh wise co2 hater what is the optimum amount of co2 that should be in the atmosphere? Also what is the optimum temperature of the earth that all you global warmers have deemed we should be at to allow us all to survive in the utopia you so desire?
These people should be celebrating the increase in CO2, because it'll allows green plants to thrive.. I have to wonder why they want all of the trees to die?
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:20 PM
 
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So when do you plan on doing your part to stop exhaling CO2?

Good point if these lefties would all off themselves that should cut down on a lot of man made contributions.

I signed up on some kook site a couple years ago for a billion free carbon credits. Folks would volunteer to not take showers or use lights and the like to make up for my carbon footprint. I got the certificate to prove it so I'm doing my part.
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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These people should be celebrating the increase in CO2, because it'll allows green plants to thrive.. I have to wonder why they want all of the trees to die?
Probably so they can blame Bush. lol
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:22 PM
 
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The Federal Circuit Court for the District of Columbia has rule unanimously that the EPA has the right to regulate greenhouse gasses and the way they're doing it is perfectly correct. In this ruling, they rejected a challenge brought by several industries, interests groups and a lot of the states.

Petitioners, various states and industry groups, challenge all these rules, arguing that they are based on improper constructions of the CAA (Clean Air Act) and are otherwise arbitrary and capricious. But for the reasons set forth below, we conclude: 1) the Endangerment Finding and Tailpipe Rule are neither arbitrary nor capricious; 2) EPA’s interpretation of the governing CAA provisions is unambiguously correct; and 3) no petitioner has standing to challenge the Timing and Tailoring Rules. We thus dismiss for lack of jurisdiction all petitions for review of the Timing and Tailoring Rules, and deny the remainder of the petitions.

http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/52AC9DC9471D374685257A290052ACF6/$file/09-1322-1380690.pdf
The EPA couldn't even regulate ****house gasses. A complete joke of an agency.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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Yeah yeah, it's all a guvment comspiracy.
A CAFR isn't a government conspiracy. It is a govt financial document. They are all over the web.

That is your response? How original and so mature.

You don't care who the controlling shareholder of a company is? Financial interest are irrelevant to you?
You would rather bury your head and go around touting the the same govt EPA "saving us all from evil C02" out of the goodness of their heart?
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I can only imagine the regulations that will come from this.
Between cow farts and make believe gasoline we are in for one wild ride
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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The EPA couldn't even regulate ****house gasses. A complete joke of an agency.
Yeah, that would explain why they managed to regulate the clean up of over 3 million contaminated petroleum underground storage tank sites nationwide in ten years - because they are a complete joke of an agency.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yeah, that would explain why they managed to regulate the clean up of over 3 million contaminated petroleum underground storage tank sites nationwide in ten years - because they are a complete joke of an agency.
Do you keep track of their superfund sites ?

NPL Home | National Priorities List (NPL) | US EPA
http://turbulence.org/Works/superfund/sites.php

I don't say we don't need them but now they are getting into the realm of political climate change.
I don't want to see carbon credits created and bought/sold here in the US because that would do NOTHING except line pockets.
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