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Old 05-13-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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I think this has been put to the voters in 32 (?) states and it has has passed in every single one of them.

I guess we have now come to the point where what the majority of voters think doesn't matter any more.
Except it's not the majority, because the majority doesn't even bother to vote. What you mean to say is that the majority of the population that votes is against it, and in social votes they almost always are conservative majorities. National polling, however, shows a growing acceptance of gays and that view is now the majority.

 
Old 05-13-2012, 09:28 AM
 
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The folks who cite Loving's statement that marriage is a basic civil right usually leave out the rest of the sentence--- "fundamental to our very existence and survival." The judges held the quaint notion that marriage and procreation were somehow connected and important to society.

What's worse is the citation to a 1942 case dealing with forced sterilization of repeat 'moral turpitude' offenders. The court wrote ---

"We are dealing here with legislation which involves one of the basic civil rights of man. Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race. The power to sterilize, if exercised, may have subtle, far-reaching and devastating effects."

Imagine that. 70 years ago, the court actually had the nerve to use the words 'marriage' and 'procreation' in the same sentence as fundamental. Crackpots.
maybe they only read the cliff notes version of court decisions.
 
Old 05-13-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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The SC upheld the right to marry that everyone already has fulfilling the fundamental one and only requirement that constitutes marriage of one man one woman. Everybody has the “right” to marry, even the homosexual. That this does not accommodate the unique and peculiar predicament of the homosexual is most unfortunate and too bad. People can’t marry somebody already married either.

The sexual preference of homosexuality and race are two entirely different and separate issues. The homosexual radicals seem to believe that if they tell the lie that sexual preference is somehow a race often enough and loudly enough that they will be able to hoodwink society into believing this nefarious deception.

It's always nice to remember that generations that believe this nonsense, like you and your parents that likely taught you it, are dying out.
 
Old 05-13-2012, 09:31 AM
 
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The folks who cite Loving's statement that marriage is a basic civil right usually leave out the rest of the sentence--- "fundamental to our very existence and survival." The judges held the quaint notion that marriage and procreation were somehow connected and important to society.

What's worse is the citation to a 1942 case dealing with forced sterilization of repeat 'moral turpitude' offenders. The court wrote ---

"We are dealing here with legislation which involves one of the basic civil rights of man. Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race. The power to sterilize, if exercised, may have subtle, far-reaching and devastating effects."

Imagine that. 70 years ago, the court actually had the nerve to use the words 'marriage' and 'procreation' in the same sentence as fundamental. Crackpots.
Allowing gay marriage does not threaten the human existance. Ironically it is far more likely that overpopulation will be our downfall than underpopulation. Gay marriage does not prevent straight couples from having kids, and this argument makes even less sense when you consider that even if these gays were single, they weren't going to be having children to begin with anyway, so preventing them from joining into marriages changes absolutely nothing. This is a dumb argument based purely in the religious idea that you're not allowed to have sex unless you're popping out kids the world can't feed.
 
Old 05-13-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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The below facts are problematic to those in favor of gay marriage, so they will deny or skirt this issues:

- Marriage is not an outright civil right; that is why states have varying prereqs for couples before they can marry

- A civil right is based upon something you are born with and cannot control; race, ethnicity, gender. To this day there is NO conclusive scientific proof that people are born gay, only that they may be born with certain propensities to strong urges including alcoholism, sex-addiction, etc (despite activists attempts to convince us otherwise such as the "gay gene" fraud story several years ago)

- If gay marriage is legalized on a national basis, large numbers of people will LOSE rights; Christians, Jews and Muslims will lose the right to refuse to service gay weddings, counselors to advise against aspects of the gay lifestyle, and basically anyone to speak their disagreement of it
To this day there is NO conclusive scientific proof that people are born straight, either. Sexuality has no conclusive origin, and the best guess so far provided by the evidence is a complicated origin of biological and environmental, but immutably set very early in life, either in the womb or just after. Either way, people do not choose their sexuality.

And I haven't seen a single argument put forth that legal gay marriage would force churches of any kind to perform them. In fact, gay marriage proponents seem to specifically state that churches will retain the ability to refuse to perform them. This is just not an honest statement from you or others pushing it around.
 
Old 05-13-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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Congrats NC! Onward Christian brothers!
You're proud that c's are filled with hatred?
Most c's these days on message boards. Sad, really.

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Old 05-13-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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almost no jews had homosexual relations.
"In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country" -Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
 
Old 05-13-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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It's always nice to remember that generations that believe this nonsense, like you and your parents that likely taught you it, are dying out.
not amongst Jews. There are a higher % of Jews under 30 who are against homo marriages then those from 30-40.
 
Old 05-13-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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"In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country" -Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
your point 20% of Nazi armed gaurds were gay.

Holocaust Survivor: Molested by Homosexual
 
Old 05-13-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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You're proud that c's are filled with hatred?
Most c's these days on message boards. Sad, really.
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