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Old 11-23-2011, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Exactly.

Ironic, however, because when you use words such as "slave," you infer that the fees are forced.
Not because the fees are forced, but because how you're treated and your attitude towards that treatment. There's a difference. To quote another example (even though it isn't as bad as it can be when purchasing airline tickets), many sellers will advertise a $100 item on ebay for $1 and then add $99 on S&H. I prefer one who puts the real price upfront: $100. The former, is for people like you.

I think that explains why South West Airlines charges more and is in worse shape than American Airlines?
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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It isn't smart to be a slave to the airlines either.
"Slave to the airlines." LOL.

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What next, airline charging by weight (passenger and luggage combined)? I'm sure you would say yes to that too.
Actually, I think it would be a bad PR move, but if you look at it from a logical point of view, it makes perfect sense. You like logic, right?

Airlines are businesses. They don't exist to serve the public, but to sell the public a service. It costs an extraordinary amount of money to provide that service, not the least of which is fuel.

Every pound of whatever that you put on a jet costs the airline more money in fuel to deliver that jet to its destination. Delivering the 95lb supermodel flying with just a carry-on costs the airline considerably less than delivering the 300lb sumo wrestler that's bringing everything he owns in 14 checked bags. Logically, they should be charged different rates. The airline doesn't know its true cost for providing a service to customer A until they know how much fuel customer A is going to require to transport, and it's generally wise in business to know your cost for a product or service before setting your price on it.

Now like I said, it would be a bad PR move, and ultimately it would be nearly impossible to manage. People would see it as an invasion of their privacy, and what people tell you when the book the flight 5 months out is never going to match what they actually show up at the airport with, so it's really a moot point - it'll never happen. But in principle, yes, I would support the airlines charging based on their cost, which is exactly what we're talking about here.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Actually, I think it would be a bad PR move, but if you look at it from a logical point of view, it makes perfect sense. You like logic, right?
I'm sure we have different take on logic. So, let us leave it at that. Speaking of PR move, looking at the arguments in this thread, I would have to disagree there as well.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Bill would ban baggage fees on 1st bag - Nov. 22, 2011


OK, who here is smart enough to realize that an outright ban on baggage fees would ultimately lead to higher air fares for the consumer?

Also, is it the government's role to tell businesses what to charge for their services?
Let's introduce a bill to ban Congress.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Einstein's Ghost-

Simply put, it is not the government's role to legislate what businesses should charge except in the case of certain monopolies.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Einstein's Ghost-

Simply put, it is not the government's role to legislate what businesses should charge except in the case of certain monopolies.
A part of the government's role is to ensure that people are protected from corrupt practices, practices that do harm. And monopolies can't be prevented (there doesn't need to be just one big airline for a monopoly).
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I'm sure we have different take on logic. So, let us leave it at that.


Yeah, sure, whatever. We all understand.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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A part of the government's role is to ensure that people are protected from corrupt practices.
What's corrupt about charging for a service based on the cost of providing that service?

(I don't expect an answer to this question, either, but since you patently avoided it in the last post, I thought I'd try again).
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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What's corrupt about charging for a service based on the cost of providing that service?
What service? I'm sure you will be calling it a service when such airlines start charging for your first bag too. Is South West Airlines not providing "service"?
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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A part of the government's role is to ensure that people are protected from corrupt practices, practices that do harm. And monopolies can't be prevented (there doesn't need to be just one big airline for a monopoly).
How are baggage fees corrupt?
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