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Old 04-06-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by twinArmageddons View Post
How is this lunacy?
How is it NOT???? : smack:

 
Old 04-06-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
Just curious, why is this any of Your business?
It's abnormal.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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Originally Posted by Ilovethecommunity View Post
The condition doesn't spread. Being gay is not a disease.
Being gay also doesn't make this happen. You can't blame the the gays this time....
This boy was born like this and even without them doing this and the gay parents he would have had problems later on in life.
No! That is where you are 100% wrong; First put forth your expert credentials that can substantiate your ludicrous claim.

The boy was born "normal" UNTIL he started focusing on the wrong ideas from what he was exposed to in life and the media.

He was never taught the difference between right & wrong. It's as simple as that.

Proverbs states that "A child left to himself shall come to utter ruin" . Here is a 11 year old boy about to destroy his life. The lesbians clap and shout with pride and joy! SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK against the "laws" of nature.

Looks like those two lesbian parents are in for a nightly three-some in the bedroom. Homeschooling GONE WILD.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by SityData View Post
No! That is where you are 100% wrong; First put forth your expert credentials that can substantiate your ludicrous claim.

The boy was born "normal" UNTIL he started focusing on the wrong ideas from what he was exposed to in life and the media.

He was never taught the difference between right & wrong. It's as simple as that.

Proverbs states that "A child left to himself shall come to utter ruin" . Here is a 11 year old boy about to destroy his life. The lesbians clap and shout with pride and joy! SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK against the "laws" of nature.

Looks like those two lesbian parents are in for a nightly three-some in the bedroom. Homeschooling GONE WILD.
How do you know he was normal?
Did you see this kid before the adoption?


Also, how are you so certain this will destroy his life?
Maybe he will be happier and better off.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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I guess if the boy had a Superman fixation he would have been sent to Marvel Comics headquarters for a big "S" a red cape so he could become Superman.

I bet if he tried to jump off the top of the house he'd learn quickly that he really couldn't fly.

People need to guide their children toward normality and away from fantasy when it takes over their lives.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 05:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
An eleven year old boy? With lesbian parents?

This should be considered child abuse. I have never been against gays adopting children, but this is outrageous and simply proves the concerns of those who are opposed to gay couples adopting.
You are making this a 'gay' issue? Seriously? Do you realise the odds of a lesbian couple adopting a transgender child? Would you care to find any other lesbian parents in this same situation?

You do realise that the vast majority of parents of transgender children would be straight?

What do you say about straight parents doing the same thing with their 10 year old son?

Parents Consider Treatment to Delay Son's Puberty : NPR
 
Old 04-06-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
Suppose someone wanted to surgically change thier child to add additional appendages or make them look like Frankenstein. Would that be anyone's buisness?

This is what we call child abuse and of course it is the buisness of society.
What on earth are you talking about?

Please read the article. This is not about 'surgery'.

The treatment recommended to the mothers by medical specialists who diagnosed the child with GID, is to delay puberty with puberty blocking hormones until the child is old enough to make his own decision.

As about 50% of children with GID attempt suicide during puberty, it would be abusive to NOT delay puberty and give this child some time to grow older and consider the implications before all the irreversible physical changes of puberty kick in.

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"This treatment is fully reversible, and cessation of the GnRH analog will result in the adolescent resuming puberty in their birth-assigned gender (Cohen-Kettenis et al., 2008). Pubertal delay can provide respite for the psychosocial pain of the transgender adolescent while simultaneously allowing time for the therapist and adolescent to further explore their gender identity and wish for sex reassignment, contributing to greater diagnostic precision (Cohen-Kettenis & van Goozen, 1998; Cohen-Kettenis et al., 2008). This can serve to satisfy any doubts the parents and doctor may have about proceeding with sex reassignment treatment, allow time for parents/family to get counseling and support as needed, notify and educate school personnel, and explore the full range of treatment options."
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/718619_8

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Old 04-06-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by SityData View Post
No! That is where you are 100% wrong; First put forth your expert credentials that can substantiate your ludicrous claim.

The boy was born "normal" UNTIL he started focusing on the wrong ideas from what he was exposed to in life and the media.

He was never taught the difference between right & wrong. It's as simple as that.

Proverbs states that "A child left to himself shall come to utter ruin" . Here is a 11 year old boy about to destroy his life. The lesbians clap and shout with pride and joy! SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK against the "laws" of nature.

Looks like those two lesbian parents are in for a nightly three-some in the bedroom. Homeschooling GONE WILD.
What a vile ignorant post- especially the last part. It's obvious you haven't even bothered to read the OP's article or watch the video - you are just on an anti-gay hate spree.

Last edited by Ceist; 04-06-2012 at 06:10 PM..
 
Old 04-06-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BigHouse9 View Post
it is a shame people think they are educated on this topic when they are really ignorant.
Please enlighten us about your knowledge of gender identity disorder/gender dysphoria/transgenderism.
This thread is more than a year old and you are still making an emotional, uneducated comment about 'poop'?

Here's a recent study I posted almost a year ago:

"White matter microstructure in female to male transsexuals before cross-sex hormonal treatment. A diffusion tensor imaging study."
Journal of Psychiatric Research, Volume 45, Issue 2, Pages 199-204 2011 Feb;45(2):199-204. Epub 2010 Jun 8.
Giuseppina Rametti, Beatriz Carrillo, Esther Gómez-Gil, Carme Junque, Santiago Segovia, Ángel Gomez, Antonio Guillamon

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20562024

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BACKGROUND:

Some gray and white matter regions of the brain are sexually dimorphic. The best MRI technique for identifying subtle differences in white matter is diffusion tensor imaging (DTI). The purpose of this paper is to investigate whether white matter patterns in female to male (FtM) transsexuals before commencing cross-sex hormone treatment are more similar to that of their biological sex or to that of their gender identity.
METHOD:

DTI was performed in 18 FtM transsexuals and 24 male and 19 female heterosexual controls scanned with a 3 T Trio Tim Magneton. Fractional anisotropy (FA) was performed on white matter fibers of the whole brain, which was spatially analyzed using Tract-Based Spatial Statistics.
RESULTS:

In controls, males have significantly higher FA values than females in the medial and posterior parts of the right superior longitudinal fasciculus (SLF), the forceps minor, and the corticospinal tract. Compared to control females, FtM showed higher FA values in posterior part of the right SLF, the forceps minor and corticospinal tract. Compared to control males, FtM showed only lower FA values in the corticospinal tract.
CONCLUSIONS:

Our results show that the white matter microstructure pattern in untreated FtM transsexuals is closer to the pattern of subjects who share their gender identity (males) than those who share their biological sex (females). Our results provide evidence for an inherent difference in the brain structure of FtM transsexuals.
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"It's the first time it has been shown that the brains of female-to-male transsexual people are masculinised," Guillamon says.

In a separate study, the team used the same technique to compare white matter in 18 male-to-female transsexual people with that in 19 males and 19 females. Surprisingly, in each transsexual person's brain the structure of the white matter in the four regions was halfway between that of the males and females (Journal of Psychiatric Research, DOI: 10.1016/j.jpsychires.2010.11.007).

"Their brains are not completely masculinised and not completely feminised, but they still feel female," says Guillamon.

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Old 04-06-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LuckyGem View Post
I guess if the boy had a Superman fixation he would have been sent to Marvel Comics headquarters for a big "S" a red cape so he could become Superman.

I bet if he tried to jump off the top of the house he'd learn quickly that he really couldn't fly.

People need to guide their children toward normality and away from fantasy when it takes over their lives.
It's not that difficult to educate yourself about this topic:

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Gender-...roduction.aspx


Sexual hormones and the brain: an essential alliance for sexual identity and sexual orientation (2010)
Endocr Dev. 2010;17:22-35. Epub 2009 Nov 24. Garcia-Falgueras A, Swaab DF.

The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb.

However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain.

There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.

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