Religion of Peace (terror, election, elect, states)
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It looks like about 80% of CD PnC posters feel that targeting civilians is acceptable at least some of the time when defending their own lifestyle-according to the WW2 thread that I created.
That is about four times the percentage of Muslims that feel that targeting civilians is ok some of the time when defending Islam, according to the oft-cited and oft-not understood PEW poll.
You can tell this is true by the number of American suicide bombers.
How many military personnel do we have in foreign countries?
Not to mention the private "security" firms
American civilians aren't lining up to walk down to the local market and murder people. Islam has always had serious problem with non-Muslims. Jews want to be left alone. Christians have render unto Caesar. Muslims have dhimmis at best and wars at worst.
There's a real serious issue with tolerance of hate speech and actual violent acts against non-Muslims in the Islamic community both historically and right now. You may have the luxury of feeling you can shrug it off. Many of us don't agree. You have not presented a case in this thread as to why we should agree with your premise.
American civilians aren't lining up to walk down to the local market and murder people. Islam has always had serious problem with non-Muslims. Jews want to be left alone. Christians have render unto Caesar. Muslims have dhimmis at best and wars at worst.
There's a real serious issue with tolerance of hate speech and actual violent acts against non-Muslims in the Islamic community both historically and right now. You may have the luxury of feeling you can shrug it off. Many of us don't agree. You have not presented a case in this thread as to why we should agree with your premise.
It appears from the Pew polling that a sizeable percentage of Muslims consider suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilian targets are justified in order to defend Islam from its enemies...and that is the gist of it.
The right of self-defense is the basis of all individual and national freedoms, because if you can’t protect yourself, all other rights and freedoms become meaningless. Yet the right of self-defense has been increasingly diminished by liberalism, in favor of “grievance based violence”.
Grievance based violence is random and senselessly vicious. It most often targets civilians for brutal reprisals, and yet it remains beloved by liberals… because its participants are said to be moved by their outrage at oppression.
If you’ve seen an angry mob torching cars or businesses, and assaulting anyone in sight while looting stores—you’ve seen the most common example of “grievance based violence”. This is the sort of violence that characterizes anything from the mobs of the French revolution to mobs across the Muslim world reacting to the Danish cartoons, to the Crown Heights pogrom or the original Russian pogroms or the mobs in South Africa to the Draft Riots of the Civil War.
The second most common example of “grievance based violence” is of course terrorism, which despite being more organized, is grievance based, randomly targeted and senselessly brutal—while being justified by a sense of grievance and outrage.
Thanks for posting this,it helps persuade those undecideds when it comes to the left and their way of thinking.
Not sure what it has to do with the "left" or what your criteria for that are.
At one time a pro-peace view was considered highly conservative.
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liberals support violence against westerners
