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...Sky News can reveal that the US and British embassies in Sanaa had received a threat from the Yemen branch of the Islamic Jihad Organisation on September 14...
"More hugs from the religion of peace" HMMMMMMM let's think about the title of this here......
What kind of discussion are you trying to strike up here?
Terrorists are terrorists. Period.
What do you expect them to do, send a truckload of flowers?
No, they are terrorists.
I wish people would stop combining the issue of religion with the issue of terrorism, as if they go hand in hand, instead of trying to find out why these terrorist groups developed in the first place and what should be done about it to safeguard the population.
"More hugs from the religion of peace" HMMMMMMM let's think about the title of this here......
What kind of discussion are you trying to strike up here?
Terrorists are terrorists. Period.
What do you expect them to do, send a truckload of flowers?
No, they are terrorists.
I wish people would stop combining the issue of religion with the issue of terrorism, as if they go hand in hand, instead of trying to find out why these terrorist groups developed in the first place and what should be done about it to safeguard the population.
Well, by calling themselves the 'Islamic Jihad Organisation' they themselves confuse the issue between religion and terrorism. Plus, the silence from moderate muslims is deafening when it comes to Islamic terrorism.
Obviously the terrorists claim a connection to the religion.
What I am saying is that many times when WE (the non terrorists) connect the terrorists with the religion, it comes off as if we are saying that that religion condones terrorism and the people that participate in that religion are terrorists.
look at the title of the thread...
"More hugs from the religion of peace"
Obviously the OP is not really implying that Islam is a religion of peace. Therefore, he/she is making a blanket statement about the religion of Islam, and a negative one.
This is what I am tired of.
Which Muslims do you want to to condemn Islamic Terrorism and how would they go about doing that? While condemning it, they may attempt to EXPLAIN (do not confuse this with Excusing) it's origins, and if they even attempted that their words would be twisted and turned so that before you even know it, it would be front page news that they support terrorists.
For them it may be a lose-lose situation.
None of the muslims i know condone terrorism. They do however have issues with the treatment of refugees in the Palestinian territories, however. And that is the root of all this, and no one wants to talk about that. It is not PC to talk about the establishment of Israel and subsequent treatment of the Palestinian population and what happened afterward with regards to rising "fundamentalist" terrorists.
I wonder what all these nasty fundamentalist terrorist Muslims were doing before the creation of israel? were they bombing and threatening the US? Were they bombing around the world? Holding people hostage? Shooting people for no apparent reason?
(and please don't give me the line that Islam was spread by the sword--because that's in the Christian history too, and lets face it, Judaism is not a religion that wants converters so they would never participate in such acts even given the opportunity)
Islam is a religion, just like every other religion.
I am getting off topic here, and perhaps this should be in another thread if it isn't already.
I am not sure what the OP is looking for. He/She is obviously trying to stir up the pot given the title of the post.
I dislike it immensely when posters start a thread with an article and don't give their take on it, especially when it is likely to result in people getting inflamed and a particular group of people getting bashed.
There are tons of Muslims living in New Jersey. Have you had bad experiences with them?
I don't know them.
All I know is these terrorists commit these acts in the name of allah, and I hear NOTHING from the mainstream muslims who claim islam is the religion of peace.
Hence: I can only deduce that Islam is the religion of peace, unless they need to make a point--at which point, all bets are off.
Until I hear otherwise from major muslim groups and leaders in public, that is my opinion. Until muslims feel strongly enough about the matter that they are willing to put themselves in jeopardy by publicly disowning this behavior, I question their sincerity.
Do you know Muslims personally who are silent on the matter? The ones I know are as opposed to this as anyone else.
Then where is the change? How are imams allowed to spread hate? Surely other muslims in the community know which imam is pro terrorist and actively recruiting for terrorist organizations and which are not. The blind mullah in new jersy who masterminded the first world trade center attack---- he didn't spring from the earth. He was there for years, his message was known and I am sure his recruitment attempts were known as well. The so called home grown terrorists that were involved in the London bombings....again, a known terrorist supportive imam bent on recruiting young muslims. Why was he tolerated by the moderate muslim community?
The abortion clinic bomber was not condoned by the prolife community, far from it. Fred Phelps 'religion' is not condoned by the baptists or any other christian religion, again far from it. This is my argument with the average everyday moderate and majority muslims. By looking the other way, they are in fact condoning the terrorism that is giving their religion a bad name.
Then where is the change? How are imams allowed to spread hate? Surely other muslims in the community know which imam is pro terrorist and actively recruiting for terrorist organizations and which are not. The blind mullah in new jersy who masterminded the first world trade center attack---- he didn't spring from the earth. He was there for years, his message was known and I am sure his recruitment attempts were known as well. The so called home grown terrorists that were involved in the London bombings....again, a known terrorist supportive imam bent on recruiting young muslims. Why was he tolerated by the moderate muslim community?
The abortion clinic bomber was not condoned by the prolife community, far from it. Fred Phelps 'religion' is not condoned by the baptists or any other christian religion, again far from it. This is my argument with the average everyday moderate and majority muslims. By looking the other way, they are in fact condoning the terrorism that is giving their religion a bad name.
How are they looking the other way? What are they supposed to do, especially the college-aged ones I've known? Are all religions responsible for all other people who happen to follow their same religion and whatever extreme/violent actions they might take? That's a tall order. There are a hell of a lot of Muslims. There are a hell of a lot of white people in America...am I obligated to take responsibility for the white people who are on death row, tell everyone that killing people is not what being white is about? I don't see why that would be my responsibility. If innumerable religious officials in the Muslim community, here and abroad, have failed to condemn such attacks, that's not the fault of the average Muslim.
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