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Old 07-12-2011, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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They do. Birth Control isn't covered under many insurance plans (is it under any?), but Viagra is!

Tax payers don't pay for abortions, you ignoramus.
You might want to look in the mirror before calling someone an ignoramus next time since your facts are way off base. Most insurance policies cover birth control.

And name calling violates this board's rules.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:42 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Nothing forced...

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As long as the federal, state or local government isn't involved in any way. Otherwise, you're imposing your religion or ideology on me.

I said that birth control should be made available, meaning those who want it can get it. Those who don't won't be forced to take it. And yes, the government at ALL levels should support it.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:42 PM
 
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I always hear liberals screaming that society has an obligation to pay for liberals' abortions, and if we don't want to pay for their abortions, then we should be required to pay for welfare for all the children that they claim will inevitably be born if women aren't given taxpayer-funded abortions on demand. If we object to further subsidizing their welfare checks, liberals demand that we pay for their birth control pill or their condoms. Well you know what, I for one say NO.

NO, I WILL NOT PAY FOR YOU TO KILL YOUR BABY.
NO, I WILL NOT PAY FOR ALL YOUR LITTLE BASTARD CHILDREN.
NO, I WILL NOT PAY FOR YOUR BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.

Liberals act as if it's their God-given right to have an orgasm, and if you refuse to subsidize their pursuit of an orgasm, you're some kind of cold, heartless monster. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Liberals are like children that never grew up, in that they want to enjoy all of the prbivileges of adulthood while at the same time bear none of the responsibilities that come with the privileges. Sex is not a fundamental right, it's a privilege for responsible adults, specifically two adults who are bound within the sanctity of marriage. If you aren't bound within the sanctity of marriage, then you simply have no right to sexual gratification, and it's quite selfish of you to demand that others sacrifice simply so you can experience sexual pleasure

Shame on liberal men for not supporting the innocent children that result from their trysts.

Shame on liberal women for being so indiscriminate in the selection of their sexual partners.

Shame on liberal men and women for engaging in sexual relations outside of the sanctity of marriage.

You want birth control pills, YOU PAY FOR IT.
You want to have children out of wedlock, YOU PAY FOR IT.
You want to kill your baby, YOU PAY FOR IT.

Can't afford any of the options, sorry not my effing problem.
You always chant "KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY BEDROOM", well keep your bedroom out of my government and out of my wallet and we'll be okay.
I'd like to know if you're equally opposed to tubal ligations and vasectomies, or are those okay because surgical forms of birth control are typically sought by married people who already have children?
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:51 PM
 
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I always hear liberals screaming that society has an obligation to pay for liberals' abortions, and if we don't want to pay for their abortions, then we should be required to pay for welfare for all the children that they claim will inevitably be born if women aren't given taxpayer-funded abortions on demand. If we object to further subsidizing their welfare checks, liberals demand that we pay for their birth control pill or their condoms. Well you know what, I for one say NO.

NO, I WILL NOT PAY FOR YOU TO KILL YOUR BABY.
NO, I WILL NOT PAY FOR ALL YOUR LITTLE BASTARD CHILDREN.
NO, I WILL NOT PAY FOR YOUR BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.

Liberals act as if it's their God-given right to have an orgasm, and if you refuse to subsidize their pursuit of an orgasm, you're some kind of cold, heartless monster. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Liberals are like children that never grew up, in that they want to enjoy all of the privileges of adulthood while at the same time bear none of the responsibilities that come with the privileges. Sex is not a fundamental right, it's a privilege for responsible adults, specifically two adults who are bound within the sanctity of marriage. If you aren't bound within the sanctity of marriage, then you simply have no right to sexual gratification, and it's quite selfish of you to demand that others sacrifice simply so you can experience sexual pleasure.

Shame on liberal men for not supporting the innocent children that result from their trysts.

Shame on liberal women for being so indiscriminate in the selection of their sexual partners.

Shame on liberal men and women for engaging in sexual relations outside of the sanctity of marriage.

You want birth control pills, YOU PAY FOR IT.
You want to have children out of wedlock, YOU PAY FOR IT.
You want to kill your baby, YOU PAY FOR IT.

Can't afford any of the options, sorry not my effing problem.
You always chant "KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY BEDROOM", well keep your bedroom out of my government and out of my wallet and we'll be okay.
Got kids? The YOU are in my wallet SUCKING up MY taxes to educate YOUR BRATS!


I don't have kids and STILL pay for YOUR spawn!


Why can't you pay for YOUR OWN!!!!!
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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Sweetheart, he's a Jewish kid who attends Temple University in Philadelphia and spends the time he's not trolling C-D stalking female celebrities on Twitter. He hasn't a clue.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Highways and street lights aren't fundamental rights, either. Nor is food safety or the other 1000's of thingst that tax dollars/people pay for and might not use. But lets just focus on this.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:13 PM
 
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Why are some conservatives so obsessed with other people's sex lives?

"Because we fund it" I suppose you will answer. Well, we all fund things others do that can create expenses borne or shared by others. I might eat a hamburger I left out in the sun for 6 hours and be rushed to the E.R. with food poisoning - "irresponsible eating," you might say. Or I might follow food safety guidelines but still wind up choking on a piece of apple. But is anyone raving, "why do liberals think eating is a right?"

A gun owner may accidentally shoot his toe off - and the medical care or the health care facilities or the physicians' training - or somewhere along the line - a taxpayer has partially paid for that care. I say I've had enough of this irresponsible behavior and I'm not paying for it anymore!!! (jesting).

Municipal taxes pay for city pool lifeguards - where are the "why do liberals think swimming is a right?" posts? I'm paying so that somebody else can get helped - at my expense, the outrage! - if they have "irresponsible swimming."

What about the fact that you can find defibrillators in many public places, government buildings, libraries, etc? Why the heck am I paying my hard-earned tax dollars to save those irresponsible people living immoral heart-unhealthy lives? God said don't be a glutton - and not on my dollar, either!

By the way, as others pointed out, conservatives are doing it like rabbits just the same as liberals, libertarians, and libertines. It's not a liberal vs. conservative phenomenon.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:18 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Why are some conservatives so obsessed with other people's sex lives?

"Because we fund it" I suppose you will answer. Well, we all fund things others do that can create expenses borne or shared by others. I might eat a hamburger I left out in the sun for 6 hours and be rushed to the E.R. with food poisoning - "irresponsible eating," you might say. Or I might follow food safety guidelines but still wind up choking on a piece of apple. But is anyone raving, "why do liberals think eating is a right?"

A gun owner may accidentally shoot his toe off - and the medical care or the health care facilities or the physicians' training - or somewhere along the line - a taxpayer has partially paid for that care. I say I've had enough of this irresponsible behavior and I'm not paying for it anymore!!! (jesting).

Municipal taxes pay for city pool lifeguards - where are the "why do liberals think swimming is a right?" posts? I'm paying so that somebody else can get helped - at my expense, the outrage! - if they have "irresponsible swimming."

What about the fact that you can find defibrillators in many public places, government buildings, libraries, etc? Why the heck am I paying my hard-earned tax dollars to save those irresponsible people living immoral heart-unhealthy lives? God said don't be a glutton - and not on my dollar, either!

By the way, as others pointed out, conservatives are doing it like rabbits just the same as liberals, libertarians, and libertines. It's not a liberal vs. conservative phenomenon.
False logic. Some examples of bad funding don't excuse other examples of bad funding. Deal with them one at a time.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:29 PM
 
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False logic. Some examples of bad funding don't excuse other examples of bad funding. Deal with them one at a time.
That's not false logic. It's analogistic to your issue, because we all pay for things we don't agree with, or that have nothing to do with our lives, with our taxes.

It's highly offensive to me that churches should be tax exempt, but there's nothing I can do about that.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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God
LOL...You right-wing Christian zealot...You people are just the American version of the Taliban...I hope your candidate Bachmann wins the Repuke nomination...Oh how much I hope she wins! Of course if God was real she would win...Right?
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